1188 Tasting Notes
I stopped in at Fru P on the way home to stock up on the nommy vanilla, and as usual I fell into a few of the others as well. This one and a herbal mix containing nothing but chocolate (lots!), hazelnut and black currant, which she recommended preparing like a chai.
Apart from the vanilla, her teas have however always disappointed me a little. I mean, they were good enough, but they weren’t awesome. The aroma is generally over the top awesome, but the flavouring itself always seemed a bit out of balance. I’m pressing on, though, because I simply refuse to believe that she’s only got one awesome tea in the whole shop. Strikes me as highly unlikely.
This one also delivers on the aroma. Very rhubarb-y and sour. I have to admit I did get a little concerned about hibiscus at this point, but when I tasted it, my fears were laid to rest. Tart and rhubarb-y, but no metallic side-flavours to be found. There’s a creamy vanilla-y note to it as well, which makes me wonder if there might be some vanilla blended in as well.
If one enjoys a rhubarb flavoured tea, then this is actually quite good. I’ve only ever had it in green tea before, and that Ruby Pie (I believe) that Sil shared with me, so it was the combination with black tea that drew me in.
I’m uncertain about how much I like it. I mean I like it, but I can’t really decide whether I love it or merely like it. I think it’s something in between. It’s quite interesting though, and it’s the sort of tea that really invites you to play with it. Mix it with other things, see what happens. I’m definitely going to try it in combination with the lovely nommy vanilla. I suspect that might be a combination that could be awesome.
I’m drinking this right now. A real post about it will follow later.
Just… HELLO, CAN ANYBODY ACTUALLY SEE THIS???
I feel like sometimes my posts aren’t showing up. I’m not used to getting a total of NO LIKES AT ALL on something I post, so it rather makes me suspicious, you know?
IF YOU CAN SEE THIS, CAN YOU LIKE OR COMMENT PLEASE?
I bought this one at the same time as I bought the honey vanilla chai I posted about earlier. As I mentioned then, it has become a habit of Husband to have some chamomile before bedtime because he feels it makes him sleep better. I then decided to try and cultivate the same habit and am therefore shopping around a bit in the world of herbal bags. Bags because with herbal tea, I’m just not that bothered if it’s loose or not. I’m not interested in herbal teas in the same way.
So I’m searching for something that is calming and also if not pleasant then at least not undrinkable. I don’t care for chamomile, so I can’t just follow Husband’s example.
So far I’ve had a yogi tea with lime and mint which was okay and one that tasted like it was just about nothing else than hot ginger which was most emphatically not okay. There are some bags of just plain peppermint, but I mostly keep those around because when ill it’s the only thing I can really drink as peppermint is one of the few things that don’t end up tasting weird.
And now this one. Of the things I’ve tried so far, I prefer this one. I wouldn’t say it’s great tasting, but it’s good enough. It has ginger in it, but I can’t really pick it up. Must be only a small amount.
All in all a quite inoffensive blend, and that is just what I’m looking for. Therefore I am scoring it high. Not because I think the flavour alone warrants it, but because it does the job I need it to do and thereby provides a pleasant experience all in all. And that warrants a higher score in and of itself, don’t you think?
Another point in its favour: When the box was empty, Luna was ever so cute being affected by the minty smell of it. Makes a very good cat toy! I’m on my second box now.
Additional note: I would dearly love to have some of the Sleepytime vanilla variant. I thought I had found a webshop where I could buy it here as they had a picture of it on their website, but as it turned out I instead received the normal Sleepytime. At first I thought they had simply sent me the wrong product, but closer examination revealed that they actually had the wrong picture on their website. So I wrote them an email and explained that I had not received the product I thought I was buying and please could they correct the picture on the website as it was very misleading. I received a snippy reply that the name and ingredients on the website was for the normal sleepytime and that she didn’t know it was the wrong picture.
She didn’t know it was the wrong picture.
In other words, as I can read between the lines, the woman just told me that she can’t tell the difference between a green box and a cream-coloured box that says vanilla on it in big letters. She furthermore told me that she has no idea what is on her own website.
And apparently I was supposed to read the ingredients list through on something is more or less a known product to me, just to see if it says vanilla anywhere in it when the picture is large and says vanilla on it in big letters.
The word ‘sorry’ or the word ‘apology’ were never used once in any of the correspondance I had with this woman, so in a fit of pique I returned the lot.
This means, however, that I am still without Sleepytime Vanilla and ready to accept that I’m going to need some help from my international Steepsterites if I ever want some at all. Could one of you good people out there be persuaded to buy me 2-3 boxes and send them to me? I can paypal the money for the boxes and postage to you or I can send you something of you choice and equal value in return.
Okay. I’m not sure where to start with this, because in many way this was a very not me thing to buy and in other ways it was a very me thing to buy and I didn’t even get it entirely on purpose in the first place.
Ways in which it’s Not-Me:
1. It’s a chai. I’ve never been able to really get into chais although I’ve tried now and then. It’s the spice mix. There’s just generally too much going on in chais. My tongue gets a little overwhelmed by it and just seems to start looking for the nearest exit. Which is weird because I’m not generally against spices in cooking or baking so long as it’s not something burning hot.
2. It almost always involves ginger and I’m just not very keen on ginger. Aforementioned burning hotness, you see. It’s not something that appeals to me at all. I’ve never been able to understand how some people can enjoy a meal that is physically painful to eat. Ginger gives me that same sort of burning sensation, and pain =/= pleasure for me. Pain is pain and pain is unpleasant and to be avoided whenever possible and that’s the end of it.
3. It’s dust in a bag. This should be self explanatory, really.
4. Proper chai involves milk. I can drink milked tea, but I much prefer not to. I think this is also part of the reason I’ve been unable to really get into chais.
Ways in which it’s Quite-Me:
1. Vanilla. I am, as you know, extremely attracted to any tea which has vanilla in it. Actually in recent years this is not just tea, it’s anything that has vanilla in it. Having found the Perfect Vanilla Black, I am now searching for the recipe for the Perfect Vanilla Biscuit. (I have some experimental ideas to try in that regard, but as this is not Biscuitster.com, I’ll move on)
2. Honey. I am also, probably less well known, very attracted to something with honey in it. I really would like to ‘meet’ an excellent honey flavoured tea, rather than just a tea that tastes like someone put honey in it, which has been my experience with honey flavouring so far. Because it’s not the same thing. But I find the idea of the honey flavoured tea very appealing indeed.
Reason why I didn’t buy this on purpose:
When it comes to the just-before-bed-cup, Husband and I have developed a habit of something herbal, taken in bed while reading. He favours chamomile because he feels like he sleeps better afterwards. I’m not keen on that, so I’m shopping around. I have plenty of rooibos with yummy flavours, but the thing is at that point of the day the last thing I want to do is faff about with teapots and loose leaf. Unfortunately the kinds of rooibos flavourings that I enjoy don’t seem to be readily available in bagged form. So I’ve found myself bag-hunting. Finished a box from Yogi tea and didn’t feel like I wanted to continue with that one, so I looked for another kind to try. As I was looking my eye fell on this box. And Quite-Me reasons trumped Not-Me reasons, in spite of the fact that I was looking for something herbal in the first place. So therefore it was not on purpose and not my fault, and I did also get some bags of a herbal blend to try as well (after having agonised for a bit about the bleeding inclusion of bleeding hibiscus in nearly bleeding everything that looked remotely interesting).
Not on purpose. Not my fault.
So I’ve been experimenting with it a bit. First I tried it with milk, which I had warmed (nuked) a bit first. I followed the suggestion on the box with 1/4 warm milk and 3/4 water. The box also suggested sweetening it to taste with sugar. As my ‘to taste’ with tea is entirely without sugar in a sort of ew-sugar-tea-blech! way, I figured I had already sort of done this by leaving sweetening out. It didn’t say anything about temperature but as it contains both black and white, I took my cue from the white.
It was… pleasant enough, although quite ginger-y. There were the other spices in the flavour as well, but in a sort of generic spice blend flavour where I couldn’t have picked them out from each other at all. It was just… spice. And ginger. Ginger I can pick out, but that’s because I’m so wary of it.
I could not, however, taste any tea at all, be it black or white both of which are supposed to be in here. I also couldn’t find anything remotely resembling vanilla or the slightest trace of honey.
It felt very generic beginner-chai-y and quite thin tasting. With ginger. Which, as ginger does, got stronger and stronger towards the end of the cup.
Hm. Not very succesful.
I reckoned maybe the milk was, while softening up the spices, covering the other flavours. This is why I don’t much understand the whole milk in tea concept. I find it deadens the taste of the tea and just turns into warm milk with something in it. Much like this particular cup did. So I tried a second cup with a fresh bag and without the milk.
I was a little concerned about the ginger here, because I thought without the milk to tame it, it might get out of hand completely. It was already plenty wild for me before after all.
I can actually smell something in it now. Something spicy (duh) but with a hint of sweetness in there, telling me that even if I can’t find the honey and the vanilla in the flavour they are in there somewhere.
I steeped the bag for a really long time, because the brew above had been so thin that I’d ended up just dumping the bag back in the cup and keeping it there while drinking. And it was still quite thin. It looks like a jolly big teabag but I’m wondering now how much actual tea is actually in there. It can’t be very much. Or it must be really old.
Peculiarly the ginger was much more in the background now, which was a pleasant surprise. Not at all what I had counted on. The other spices were still present as well and still just a generic could be anything really sort of spice blend.
I felt like I could pick up a hint of vanilla and honey now though, but not nearly as much as I would have liked at all.
All in all not as good as hoped but I’m pretty certain I can drink this box up eventually. I’ve definitely learned not to follow the suggestion on the box though, because that just didn’t work at all.
Perhaps I should try another go-round of both these versions while making it like a black with boiling water and like a flavoured black with not quite boiling water. So I tried boiling water, no milk.
It was less thin at this point, but still the same generic spice throughout most of the flavour. This time though I actually felt like I was drinking tea as opposed to spiced water, so that was a plus.
Honey and vanilla, though? Not so much. I seem to have misplaced them. I’m sure I had them just before!
Did nobody really see my previous post? It has like 4 likes on it or something and for the first 24 hours it only had 1. This is so unusual for me that it’s almost entirely unheard of. So at the risk of sounding vain, do go and have a look at it. If nothing else then just at the last line of it which has Stuff Revealed!
In the meantime I’m contemplating what to do about the big order from Nothing But Tea that I thought I made. I was doing some netbank-stuff in relation to Stuff Revealed (yes I am going to make you go and look in order to find out what it is) and noticed that the NBT order hadn’t been payed for. Investigating further I find that it doesn’t show up in my order history on the site and I also haven’t received any order confirmations by email. I don’t know why I didn’t notice not getting a confirmation. It’s the second time this has happened with NBT! How the plock can ordering tea be so damn complicated??? I honestly don’t know what it is I’m doing wrong. O.o So now I’m not sure what to do, whether to put the order together again (I think I can remember most of it) or to just try my luck with one of the other places I want to shop instead.
Auggy shared this one with me, and I’ve been a little wary of it. Wary and also curious. I’m just not certain that the corn-y aspect is one that I’ll enjoy. She sent me two of them, so at least it’s not something that I’ll have to spend the rest of my life trying to get through if it turns out that it’s not actually for me at all.
The aroma of the little toucha is giving the corn-y aspect away already. It smells not at all like pu-erh tea, but rather a lot of salt and popcorn. Highly peculiar, but also rather interesting. I’m much more curious now. (Also wondering what Husband will think of it. I can never quite anticipate what he’ll enjoy and what he’ll find bizarre)
Actually, I’m really craving some freshly made popcorn now…
After steeping Husband agreed with me about the popcorn, but I actually think that the popcorn note is a little less obvious now. It’s because the pu-erh notes are coming in as well and making sure you’re not mistaking it for anything else. Actually, it’s almost as dark as coffee, so at a glance and when only looking at it you could probably easily mistake it for a mug of coffee. It’d be some very surprising coffee though. But I digress.
I am still really craving some freshly made popcorn.
At first sip, it felt very sharp and salty, but also a little bit thin flavour-wise. I decided this was because of the temperature of the cup and let it cool down a bit before continuing. Even so, there was still quite a lot of aftertaste to the tiny sip I had, which did nothing for my popcorn craving.
After cooling a little more it’s a much stronger flavour, but still rather sharp and prickly. It’s not as popcorn-y as I had imagined, and I’m not actually certain whether I think this is a good thing or a bad thing. It’s a pu-erh, it’s not a corn-flavoured tea. It has picked up some corn-y sort of characteristics though. It’s not really so much flavour as it’s mouth feel. My mouth feels much the same was as when I’ve had corn soup or corn bread or similar. I made corn bread once, actually, and was vastly disappointed by it. Turns out I don’t like corn bread at all, largely because of this particular mouth feel. It was just WAY too much corn. This is tempered by there also being the strong notes of just pu-erh tea and that funny sharp note that I mentioned. It’s familiar to me, but I can’t work out what it is.
All in all, it’s not bad this, but it’s not exactly awesome either. I wouldn’t go out of my way for it.
Now go look at my previous post.
Auggy shared this one with me. A couple of years ago I received an education in Jin Jun Mei as a type from someone here on Steepster. I believe it may have been Spoonvonstrup (who hasn’t been around lately, what’s up with that?) but I can’t remember for certain. At the time I got some JJMs that were produced in Yunnan and some that were produced in Fujian, and I came to the conclusion that while I enjoyed them all, I greatly preferred the Fujian ones.
Biiiiiig surprise to everyone present, I’m sure.
Anyway, I know the type and I know it’s one that I like, so I was happy that Auggy had shared hers with me. I’m not the least bit surprised that it would by a type she would be interested in. In fact, knowing Auggy and knowing me and knowing how closely our tea-tastes often match, I’d have been immensely shocked if she hadn’t bothered at all.
Back when I received the aforementioned JJM education, I did actually also receive a sample of this one. I’m afraid I gave it a somewhat lack-luster rating, but that must have been a different harvest. It could easily be that this one suits me better or that my taste has changed a little. Therefore I’m not particularly concerned about that now.
The aroma of the leaves here was rather odd. There isn’t really very much of it and what is there reminds me mostly about the Oriental Beauty oolong I wrote about earlier. I remembered smokyness and grain and such. What happened?
Oh well, it’s not the smell of the dry leaf that counts. It’s the aroma of the brew and the flavour that counts, so we’ll see how that turns out. I’m still not put off.
Oh yeah, this is a different story! Now it’s all grainy and thick and malty. In regards to the malt, it’s an almost syrup-y sort of smell. It’s actually very sweet when you really get your nose into it. I’m thinking chocolate and caramel here. Dark, dark ones, but still.
As for the flavour, first off it does have that Yunnan-y taste of hay, which… I could live without, frankly, but it’s not super-strong. After that it goes all out on the grain and the malt, and it gives me that association to Danish rye bread that I look for in a really great keemun. The dark dark chocolate-y caramel-y sort of malty note is making up a good deal of the body along with the grain. It’s fairly discreet, but once you’ve noticed it you find that it’s all over. I rather like that.
Now, I’ve looked up what I said about this the first time, and let’s just say that I don’t agree with myself at all. Back then, I had a sort of two-step experience of the flavour, which I’m not getting at all today. It’s very well merged this time. I suppose that’s a pretty good illustration of differences between harvests. Especially with wild-picked stuff like this, I imagine.
Raising the rating accordingly (and significantly). I may actually invest in some more of this myself in the future. We’ll see.
Strangely, though, Husband didn’t care for it at all. He found it tannin-y. But but but it’s Chinese! A Chinese black doesn’t even know what tannin is! Shocking. Also kind of funny because I count this one in the same sort of general family as keemuns and the Laoshan Black and such like which he enjoys, the latter even to the point of being renamed Life-Giving Tea. I just can’t get a grip on what I think he’ll enjoy and what he won’t. I’m coming to the conclusion that his tongue must be in upside down or something. Or broken.
Oh, and by the way, we bought a house.
Today I received an envelope full of yummy things from Scheherazade and I decided to start with this one. It wasn’t one of the ones I asked about but when I’m reading the description I’m rather wondering why I didn’t.
I’m fairly attracted to apple flavoured teas as it is, but this one has apple AND caramel, and I think it’s a well established fact that I’m very attracted to caramel-y teas. I’ve had great results just mixing Kusmi’s apple and caramel flavoured teas for myself before. (That reminds me, it’s been a long time since I’ve had a tin of Kusmi’s lovely caramel.) I really don’t know why this didn’t catch my eye.
The leaves smell lovely. I can definitely smell the caramel and also something which I’d probably say was just generally fruity. Really, it smells rather like a sweetie shop. After steeping the fruity note smells definitely apple-y. It’s all tart and fresh. The caramel seems to be more in the background, all mellowed out and sweet.
I’m really excited about tasting this now!
Whoa! This stuff is fantastic on an epic scale!
First I get some fresh and slightly tart apple that actually tastes like apple. After that the sweetness from the caramel comes in along with what I assume is the strawberry leaf. It’s sort of fruity-sweet and reminds me of summer. Apple tea has always been an autumnal flavour to me so I can only describe this on the whole as a bit of Indian summer in a cup.
It tastes enormously rich and yet at the same time the flavourings aren’t actually that strong. They’re easily discernable but they’re nowhere near the point where your tastebuds are completely drowned in flavour. That’s the balance I like the very best in my flavoured teas.
I’ve never heard about this company before, but I’ll be making a note of it. I had a brief look at their site and spotted at least three things right away that I definitely want to try. Shipping to Denmark seems acceptable as well. What an awesome discovery and what an excellent choice Scheherazade made for me! :D
I’ve tried this type of oolong twice before, both from TeaSpring and with a couple of years in between. The first time I thought it was wonderful so a few years later I bought it again and was faced with abject disappointment, because I really didn’t care for it any more. I believe I ended up giving the rest of it away. Recently(ish) this type of oolong had a lot of enthusiastic reviews on Steepster, in many cases this one from Teavivre in particular, so as I was putting in an order anyway, I figured I would try a sample of it. Even better, because my order reaching the price that it did, my sample was free. Ha! Win.
The leaves have a peculiar aroma because they don’t smell like an oolong at all. They smell like a black tea. I can’t actually pick much out in the way of notes, other than that high-grown-ish tobacco-y one, which was rather far from what I’d expected to find in an oolong. Try as I might I couldn’t actually find any of the notes I normally associate with oolong at all.
After steeping it’s more oolong-y and slightly floral and wooden. It’s less perplexing now and even has a faint note of fruit somewhere in there. Something peach-y, I think, but I might be influenced by the fact that I remember at one point reading about this particular type of oolong being characterised by having a note of peach. So I might be picking up some peach.
The flavour is very floral, which is a little unfortunate because I don’t much care for floral. It often comes off as a bit soapy or perfume-y to me. Oh well. Looks like the second time was I tried this type of oolong was not a fluke. Neither, mind you, do I think my first go with it was, but it was during a time where I also greatly enjoyed Darjeeling. My tastes simply changed in between the first and second time. And clearly they haven’t changed back yet. When I start drinking Darj by the liter, I’ll know to try this type of oolong again as well.
Anyway, apart from the floral notes, there’s definitely a note of fruit now, and it’s not something I’m imagining this time. It’s definitely there and it’s quite strong once you get through all the flowers. Again, I’m thinking a juicy peach. There are also some notes of wood and a slight hint of grass.
Well, the floral aspect rather put me off, so I’m glad I just got me a test sample. For someone who enjoys high grown teas, I imagine this would be excellent. For me… Well, I prefer something darker and earthy.
I need to renew the supply of this.
I’m having the very last from the tin in the shape of liquid comfort, as Husband committed the ultimate betrayal: He forced me to go to the dentist. Haven’t been in years and years and I was scared out of my wits while there. (Yoga breathing turned out to be unexpectedly helpful with that. Dentist gave me lots of praise for that. Handy tip, Steepsterites!) However, I only had one hole that needed fixing though (more praise from Dentist that this was all after some 10-ish years or so), and I opted to get that overwith straight away rather than go through all the nervous tension again in a couple of weeks. So, numb face. Rinsing was almost impossible when I couldn’t fully control half my upper lip. Miracle I didn’t spill down myself.
My face is almost woken up now, so I can have my reward. And the choice is obvious, really, isn’t it?
Remind me to stop in at Fru P tomorrow on the way home. (I would have done the other day when AC Perchs once again let me down, as I was badly in need of some comfort. Fru P is a really sweet lady. I remember liking her immediately when she first opened. She lets me buy 50g and I expect she would let me have a sample as well, as I seem to recall having heard her offer that to someone else. Shame I’ve been a bit meh on most of the other teas I’ve bought there, though. Oh well, lots still to try!