696 Tasting Notes

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So I still have a couple of these and had brought one to work at one point in case of pu-erh emergency. I decided to make this in my perfect tea mug with a western gongfu hybrid. After my attempt to brew the Chenpi Ripe Tangering pu-erh Western style the other day, I thought I’d better try a rinse. I got the water to a boil then did a ten second rinse. It smelled very earthy and dark (and a little fishy) after this so I did another ten second rinse. Still smells earthy, dark and strong but not offensive. The tuo pretty much collapsed at this point and my infuser is fall of very finely ground leaves, like coffee grinds (I see I had that experience with this the first time as well).

After all this, I gave it a 30 second steep which yields an aroma of earth, barn and mushrooms. Maybe damp hay. Not offensive, just strong. Like a farm, but not unpleasant. I swear! It’s not that it smells like manure, but it does smell like a wooden structure that’s lived in by animals. I think people with a rural sensibility might understand that. Or I’m crazy. :)

So indtead of writing the rest of this note, I accidentally talked with a co-worker for a while. Whoops. Impressions from the past are: it wasn’t very strong in flavour, despite the depth of colour and aroma. I was probably a little skimpy on time given the two rinses BUT leaving it like this kept it fairly fresh and allowed me to sip along mindlessly which was actually perfect in the circumstance. No strong notes really came to the fore, so my assessment of this now (with more pu under my belt) is that it is good for a casual puerh when I want something rich but am not in the mood for black tea. It’s a beginner puerh, which makes sense given that it’s a mini tuocha with tiny leaves. I’m gonna go make more now…

Anlina

Haha I’m a city person mostly, but I totally get the barn smell. It’s like clean animals and hay and fresh straw and outdoors and all those different scents that combine to make that barn smell.

AllanK

How many tuochas did you use for your mug? A twelve ounce mug really needs 2 tuochas. You might get better results.

Uniquity

Allan, I’ve had particular tea before with a stronger taste and it was not so pleasant. Surprisingly, this followed the recommendations of Teavivre (at least from two years ago when I first received it). I personally wouldn’t want two.

Uniquity

Wooooow. Just looked at Teavivre’s new recommendations for this tea Western style:
Teapot 8oz Tea:2p 5-8 min 100ºC/212ºF
That would be beyond undrinkable for me. I might try it as an experiment someday as I have been surprised before. But wow.

Starfevre

what, exactly, constitutes a pu-er emergency?

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Sample 4 outof 5 from Teavivre. Thanks! I am spending the day at home catching up on life. Between my two jobs, I have had only a few days off this month and I am rarely home to enjoy them. Evenings are equally busy with visiting family and so on. Today is the last official day of summer and after a massive torrential rain overnight I am enjoying some sun and warm temperatures. It’s just after noon and I’ve already made two loaves of bread and a batch of english muffins which will be gratefully enjoyed throughout the week when I have no time to make dough.

So, here I sit with a cup of this. I was pleasantly surprised to see massive chunks of tangerine peel in with the puerh. I used half the sample in my perfect tea mug for a few minutes with water that (apparently) cooled to 96 before pouring. The result is a deep brown like a stout or dark ale. The aroma is musty and barnlike, but not in the usual pleasant way. It’s overpowering. Shoot. I haven’t made puerh Western style in a while…shoulda done some sort of a rinse first. I’m going try drinking this but if it’s too strong, I can always pour it out and try again with a re-steep. D’oh.

Huh. This has a totally different taste profile than the aroma suggests. I get smoke. No barn or hay. Maybe something musty if that ties into the smoke. It’s strong with a sense of bitterness like a coffee edge but not unpleasant. This is a very potent mug. VERY strong. I am tempted to add a bit of milk to dilute it because I’m not super interesting in drinking it as is. Which sucks, because this is my fault and this is my first tea of the day. I will not rate this currently because I need to try again under better circumstances.

All I can say for sure right now is that it is very bold and strong with a smoky edge. No sweetness. Whew.

Flavors: Musty, Smoke, Wood

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Third of five recent Teavivre samples, and I am saving the unusual ones for last. The beau and I recently drank the regular Silver Needle and I am interested to see if I get nuch difference in the organic. I am going Western again and following the instructions with 75 degree water and the full pouch in the teapot. Around four minutes steeping a light yellow liquor with some serious melon and cucumber aromas.

First sips come in light, a bit melony and sweet. I recently ate some seasoned crackers and the remains of those are overpowering the tea. This is a very light tea, not one that holds up well to this particular pairing. I think this should be enjoyed on its own so you can get the full sense of light sweet hay and honeydew/cucumber flavours. No bitterness or astringency at all, I like this more than the regular Silver Needle from last week. This stands out more and has a bit of a floral note that I appreciate. I think I still preferred the white peony but this hits the spot right now.

I can’t rule out steeping parameters as a factor in my results but this stand on its own much better than it’s non-organic counterpart. A very nice light white that is easy to sip exactly as is.

EDIT: second steep at boiling for a minute is really nice. Similar flavours but even more bold. Nice to sip while I sit in the sun before going to work at the library. We were up later than usual checking out the Northern lights. Amazing!

Flavors: Cucumber, Floral, Hay, Honeydew, Melon

Preparation
7 g

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This is quite possibly my first “Random Steepings” entry. Tada! The beau and I had Chinese food “in town” tonight and I was curious about the tea. The waitress said there was a loose leaf oolong and we asked for a pot of that. It came loose but was brewing up really dark so we investigated. Turned out, this is definitely shu puerh. She had no more info about it but we told her a bit about puerh and how she might like to brew it if she wants to try it again. It was actually really nice and held up to Western steeping really well. This encouraged me to try more of our pu Western style. Yay!

Also excuse the (many?) Typos. I’m on my phone and Steepster won’t let me see what I am typing so I am just hoping it turns out legible…now it’s letting me. Grr. That was pretty bad. I think I got most of them.

Cheri

Isn’t that frustrating, that on the phone the text entry field doesn’t like to show everything?!

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First thoughts: Wow, those are big! The leaves are uniformly whole, about 1.5 inches long.

I got some of this in my recent package of samples from Teavivre and now that Steepster seems less broken, I’m finally reviewing it. I don’t often drink white tea but when I do I tend to enjoy it. I steeped this for about two minutes in 75 degree water per the instructions on the sample. I used the whole packet to make a pot for the beau and I since he is a big fan of white teas.

At two minutes western style, this is light tea. Very light. Maybe too light. I poured the tea back into the pot for another minute steeping – and made a mess. Whoops. Then I forgot it, and it went two more minutes. So, a four minute steep it is. The water was only 75 when poured though, so I’m not worried about over-steeping.

Now, we have a lot more flavour. It is still a light-tea but full-bodied and sweet with some notes of hay and melon or cucumber. No bitterness, astringency or dryness. Light but yummy. Sort of unassuming. Another tea that I like when I drink but don’t always think to go for. The beau proclaims it “really good.” He gets a bit of jasmine (which is likely floral in general). He had a sip of scotch before trying it though, so his impressions are now confused.

I don’t think we will have any problem enjoying these samples and I am interested to compare it to the Organic Silver Needle we also received. I think I will try a second steep of this later at higher temps as well to see what we get.

It’s been a little while since I’ve had the white peony, but so far I would say I liked that a little better. It had a little more oomph for me and stood out a bit more. I think it also had different brewing parameters though which can really change the outcome.

Flavors: Cucumber, Melon, Sweet

Preparation
170 °F / 76 °C 4 min, 0 sec 7 g 20 OZ / 591 ML

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drank Vanilla Comoro by Harney & Sons
696 tasting notes

This is a bit of a revelation. I still have half a pound of this from my hasty mega-purchase a few years ago. I constantly give it away, but it reproduces like gremlins.

Knowing its tendency to become a bit bitter and dry, I steeped it quick (about 2.5 minutes) and added a small splash of milk and a bit of honey. This brings it back to sweet, creamy, vanilla. Not my favourite and I definitely regret buying so much but this will make it really easy to drink some more at work. No re-steeping, dear heaven.

Flavors: Cream, Vanilla

Preparation
Boiling 2 min, 30 sec 1 tsp 12 OZ / 354 ML
Cathy Zheng

I totally get the bitter dryness too! Will also try 2.5 minutes as opposed to the recommended 5

Uniquity

I find it makes a difference. Sometimes you need a bit more leaf to make up for the loss in time. Another option is to use water that has cooled for a minute or so. I think it is the decaf tea that lends the unpleasant bitter/dry aspect and these tricks help defeat it.

Cheri

Thanks for the tips. I have a sachet of this that I need to try still.

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Sooo, I am finally trying this – the first of my Mandala sampler. This is my first Mandala experience, but not my first puerh. I already know I prefer Shu, so this is a great opportunity. Dry, the leaf smells sweet and reminds me (as usual) of sweet hay, damp earth, wood and sweet clean animals.

I followed the instructions provided with the teas which suggested the whole serving for one session or half that for a lighter brew (or in my case for a small quantity of liquid). I gave a 15 second rinse with boiling water, then 30 second steep with boiling again. The result is not bitter or astringent, though it isn’t as sweet as expected. It has a bit of dryness and some general earthiness but not a lot else. It’s definitely earthy and mushroom-y. The beau gets a fishy smell but I don’t. He says “it’s really strong. It’s not bad though.”

2: 45 seconds, boiling. The leaves are still pretty clumped up, and the liquor is quite dark with an earthy, mushroom aroma. The flavour matches the first, but maybe a bit less dry. Strong, rich, earthy.

3: 1 minutes, boiling. Might as well mention that due to my lack of a sharing pitcher, I am brewing in my small gaiwan, and pouring into the larger one then pouring into our cups with a dribble at the end for my teapet. It’s a messy but equitable system. This steep smells very strong. Like an earthy greenhouse or barn. As always, this isn’t negative. Still no bitterness, but a bit dry. No sweetness, which I had in other shu. I think this is maybe the result of the small leaf?It’s bold, fo shu! (See what I did there?) The beau says the fish is gone (I never got that!) and that it is more earthy. “Best steep so far.”

4: 1 minute 15 seconds, boiling. I can’t imagine how strong this would be with the full sample. I definitely made the right choice for my brewing setup to split this in two. I was looking at other notes and saw some comparisons to coffee which seem accurate but it isn’t unpleasant and bitter like coffee. More an explanation of the depth and richness. This steep gets some sweetness finally. I like it. Much the same, but better. The beau says “now this tastes like a typical pu-erh, the strong taste is gone.” We agree on that for once.

5: 1 minutes 30 seconds, boiling. Whoa sweetness. Something fruity. Appley? This is different. I like it. Best so far. Reading other notes again – man, did my experience contradict EVERYONE else? Oh well!

6: 1 minute 45 seconds, boiling. The problem with this steeping method is that the gaiwan burns my fingers with boiling water, but the water is cool enough to drink by the time it is poured in my cup. I could go through a lot of steeps very quickly if it weren’t for the need to get water boiling again regularly. Taste is similar to 5. Sweet, lighter, a sense of apple or maybe apple peel. I don’t know why I say that, it isn’t strong enough to really explain, but it comes to mind anyway.

From here on, I’m going to just steep and enjoy without reporting. This can get exhausting. I need a bigger sample so I can try it gongfu, and Western-ish as well. For now, this was nice and different from other shu I have tried. I don’t think I need a cake of it, as it doesn’t hit my hot spots (currently). Really nice to experience though. Great education!

Flavors: Apple Skins, Earth

AllanK

I have this tea and have brewed it. I think you would do better with shorter steeps, no more than 15 sec initially.

Uniquity

That is closer to my usual approach, Allan. When I try the other half (~4g) I will go with my usual and see how that changes my impression. Thanks!

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drank Citron Oolong by DAVIDsTEA
696 tasting notes

Well, I haven’t had this in years and I expected my opinion to be different as my tastes have changed so much, but I actually still like it. My youngest brother got it for my while in Toronto, – he got me a couple teas he wanted to try. Smart cookie. I forgot I had had this one and my initial impression was favourable. I love jasmine, the lemon scent was strong and the oolong seemed subtle. All good for me.

Steeped, those impressions held true. I didn’t notice the oolong underneath the lemon, but it was definitely there since it tasted a bit creamier and smoother than lemon myrtle on its own. The jasmine was present underneath the lemon, but very pleasant. Youngest brother tried it hot and said it just tasted like water. At this point, he decided he wanted it cold and stronger. I put the tea in a travel mug and told him to refrigerate overnight and try today. I don’t know if that helped him out but I do remember that people new to tea tend to like it much stronger than I do. I thought this was a great balance, where he found it plain. Just goes to show how subjective tastes are!

Flavors: Jasmine, Lemon

Anlina

Ah this is one of my all time favourites. I find everything about it pretty much perfectly balanced. It’s so interesting to me, when people love something I find really mediocre, or dislike something I really love, not just because we like different things, but because the experience of that tea is so different that if you didn’t know better you’d never think we were drinking the same thing.

Uniquity

My husband also drinks tea and I enjoy comparing notes with him because we rarely have the same impressions even when sharing a pot – or a cup. It’s really interesting and has me questioning how unique our sense experiences are. I often wondered if everyone else saw colours the same as I do, this is just an extension of that, I guess!

Anlina

I used to kind of just assume that people experienced sensory stuff in the same way I do. I never really thought about it, but figured it was all pretty similar.

Which is particularly funny, because I experience synsthesia, so there’s some sensory stuff that I experience in a way that doesn’t even have shared context with other people – but I kind of obliviously didn’t realize this for years, until I clued into the fact that people looked at me weird when I described tasting colours.

Uniquity

As a child, my eyes went poorly very quickly. It never occurred to me that I couldn’t see, I just assumed that it was like that for everyone and was copying school notes off friends rather than the board, etc. After nearly a year of this, someone caught on and I was sent for an eye test. The results were so bad that I was sent for another one because the adults didn’t believe me. Luckily it didn’t end in anything more than a strong prescription for glasses and eyes that continually (but now gradually) deteriorate BUT I think it set me further on the path of realizing how unique our experiences are and how difficult it is to ever know that people see/hear/feel/smell/experience things the same way. It led to me especially wondering about sight but I eventually started questioning everything. I was also a huge reader and quite imaginative, but I think the dramatic sight change had an impact.

Synesthesia has long fascinated me and I am sometimes disappointed that I don’t have any synesthetic associations, that I know of. I used to associate colours with numbers but I am fairly convinced that was a result of paint-by-numbers always using the same code! After reading more about it, I am a little relieved that my brain isn’t firing that much that often, but it’s still fascinating.

mj

Synesthesia is completely fascinating! It’d be so cool to know what that’s like.

Anlina

It’s really different for every person who experiences it.

Mine is pretty random and I don’t experience it all the time or with all things. There are certain things that taste like colours (colours don’t have a taste, colours are a flavour), certain sounds or music produce colours, flashes of light or patterns, and certain smells have a temperature separate from their usual association. I also have other crossed wires which I tend to forget about till I’m experiencing them.

So some examples, parsnips and lime jello taste green, but spinach or green tea doesn’t. Dutch licorice rooibos tastes a very specific shade of grey-blue, kind of cornflowerish, but other licorice or blueberries don’t.

Part of ATB’s 9pm is a glowing deep blue. ATB’s Don’t Stop is a bright, sunny yellow. Foster the People’s Pumped up Kicks is pale blue on top and brown on the bottom with a kind of wavy dividing line, like an abstract landscape. Some of the Swans’ music is a pretty wild experience with a lot of visuals going on. Most music is just music.

Cucumbers smell cool, but some artificial cucumber fragrances that are otherwise dead on smell hot. Cinnamon, mint, pepper etc have no temperature.

It’s all pretty innocuous and generally pretty neat. I like experiencing it.

Some of my friends have a totally different synesthetic experience. One of them experiences colours as tastes in her mouth, which can be great or disgusting.

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You know what Steepster? This tea is going on four years old and I still have 50 grams left. You know what else? It’s still really good. I get grapes, I get raisin, I get a bit of natural sweetness and a hint of white tea. I don’t get bitterness or astringency. I don’t get bubblegum. I don’t get anything overly artificial. This was a really well balanced white tea blend that Davids put out for Christmas nearly four years ago and I really liked it. I still like it. I wish they would return to these less flavoured blends that hold up to a bit of abuse. I am so happy with this right now. Trying out whites and green oolongs lately has inspired me to broaden my tea horizons, on occasion at least. Usually the beau takes care of everything that isn’t a black tea in our house but I’ve been on a sampling role lately and I will be keeping this one at work with me for the times I want a flavoured or light tea.

By the way, the grapiness of this is like purple grapes I find. No tart, not aggressive, not fake or candy-like. Really nice. A white base was the way to go. Way better than the newer grape tea they did a while ago.

Flavors: Grapes, Raisins, Sweet

Ysaurella

a tea never really dies…

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I’ve opted to do a follow-up note on this tea as I am steeping it Western style and am curious how it will hold up. I am also happy to report that this samples doesn’t have any of the crushed leaves or powder that I encountered in my earlier sample. I feel badly for suggesting that it is a broken leaf tea when I apparently experienced an anomaly.

As per Teavivres Western instructions, I am steeping the whole pouch in my Perfect Tea mug for one minute in boiling water. I’ve got to admit that despite my innate specticism about some of these steeping parameters, Teavivre is REALLY good about making them accurate to the specific tea. I tend to brew per my own general guidelines but following the exact directions for each tea yields a different (and sometimes better) result for the Teavivre teas. The dedication to optimal brewing per tea and per batch is remarkable, and much appreciated – even from a brewing sinner.

After this minute in the boiling bath, I have a boldly aromatic tea with hints of cinnamon, spice, hay. I can smell it from across my desk, it has a note that suggests a potential bitterness, but is generally appealing. It also maybe smells a bit roasty, and perhaps a bit floral.

First sips reflect the flavour quite well. Some sweet baking spice flavour, some roastiness, no bitterness or astringency. It reminds me of the Taiwan Oriental Beauty I sampled the other day. Very nice!

EDIT: Second steep: As usual, I got distracted with work and this went 2 or possibly closer to 3 minutes with boiling water. This results in some astringency, a very dry tongue with the start of bitterness. I don’t like that, but I know it is my fault so I shan’t try a third. If I can get past the self-inflicted astringency, it tastes much like the first. Bakey and roasty with a bit of sweet and spice. Like snickerdoodles or cinnamon buns.

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Well, this needed refreshing. I have been drinking loose leaf for many years, and have fairly well nailed down my tastes. I love Chinese blacks and some other unflavoured teas. I occasionally drink flavoured teas, or herbals, but the bulk of my tea is unflavoured with no additives. I stock regularly from Teavivre with the occasional Verdant purchase and the odd re-stock at Davids. I love mint, am learning about the wide world of puerh, and prefer ripe to raw, so far. I don’t like green or green oolongs very much, white is okay and roasted oolongs are pretty good. Coconut and chamomile are awful, and I wish they weren’t in so many blends!

At home, I live with my husband and cat in a house built by my grandfather, which we love. We share many interests – books, tea, video games, board games, tv/movies. On top of that, I love crosswords and recently took up knitting again, so I’m having a hard time balancing all my passions at the moment. I’m a big fan of Doctor Who, as is my entire immediate family. I love spreading the Who love!

We also spend a lot of time with family, when we can. I’ve got a gaggle of younger brothers, and we like to spend time with them. The wonders of the internet allow us to spend time together even though some of them live a few hours away.

As for ratings, I try to only log teas once or twice because I drink a lot of the same ones repeatedly. My rating is based on my perception of the tea at first tasting and is adjusted if anything notable occurs in subsequent cups. I may also factor in the price and customer service but try to note that when I can.

81 – 100: These are great teas, I love them, regularly stock them or savour them as unique treats.
71 – 80: These are solid. I drink them, I like them, I may or may not keep them on hand regularly. This is still good stuff.
61 – 70: Just okay. I can drink it, but it doesn’t stand out to me. Might be lower quality, not to my taste, or outside my comfort zone.
41 – 60: Not likely to keep drinking…hoping hubby will enjoy!
0 – 40: No thank you, please. Take it away and don’t make me finish the cup.

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