186 Tasting Notes

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It has been nearly a month since I drank this one. Other than this morning’s Copper Knot Hongcha, this has shaped up to be a green tea sort of a day. Maybe I was in need of more calming vibes than my more typical day of mostly black teas could provide.

EC&M is a standard green, really quite lovely. I had it extra strong, with a three minute steep (Teavana recommends one minute) for a full bodied but not bitter brew. Just what I was looking for.

Preparation
175 °F / 79 °C 3 min, 0 sec
chadao

You give this tea the highest possible rating? Do you work for Teavana or something, or is your palate too naive to recognize a truly good green tea?

SimplyJenW

@chadao The worst kind of tea snobbery is the rude kind.

chadao

I apologize to both of you for the brutality of my comments. It was not respectful, nor was it becoming of a true tea fanatic. I hope you might forgive me for my words.

@Camiah: let me rephrase my disagreement with your rating. The only reason that I cannot give this tea anywhere near a 100 is because it tastes like an everyday green tea. At 15 dollars for 2oz, it is just not worth it for me. However, to each their own, and I hope you enjoy your tea ventures from here on out.

SimplyJenW

@chadao Perhaps this is the best green tea she has ever tasted and she has perfected the brew time for her palate. You cannot assume that everyone on Steepster has access to the finest teas on earth at the most favorable price. Sometimes what is local and easily obtainable is perfection.

chadao

@Cheryl. Fair accusation. No, I don’t work for Seven Cups, but I will admit, I do have a bias toward this company that introduced me to the finest Chinese teas in the world. I will also admit that I have something against Teavana. It seems to me that this company thrives upon selling low quality tea at ridiculously marked up prices, assuming the acceptance of a customer who knows now better, thus surviving on lies and duplicity. Once again, I will ask forgiveness for the harsh words in my first comment. However, I will not ask forgiveness for championing my opinions, which is something that we are all entitled to, and something that I will not rob anyone of (this does not mean that I will not explain why I disagree with other peoples’ opinions).

Again, though, you make a valid point of suspecting my ratings. I have only been on this site for two days.

chadao

I’m sorry, I didn’t realize I was fighting with someone on here. I simply thought that I was respectfully disagreeing with the thoughts and opinions of others, regardless of my own naivite. Continuing this civil discussion…. I once again will state that I neither work for nor own Seven Cups. I work for a much larger, publicly owned tea corporation, essentially as a retail slave. I love my job, as weird as that sounds. I know the owner of Seven Cups, and she is the only certified Chinese Tea master to own a tea shop in the States. Naturally, her products support her certifications. She spends 3-4 months on Chinese tea farms, selecting only the best teas to bring home to us silly Americans :)

Anyway, Cheryl, your posts indicate that you know something about tea. Could you possibly recommend me to some teas and companies that I might enjoy, so that I could expand my palate?

SimplyJenW

Hi Cheryl! Those with an agenda usually show their true colors right away.
Personally, I love being a silly American. It shows me who is worthy of my business by still treating me with respect, and who is worthy of my respect.
@chadoa I am sure you have plenty of places to buy tea without a recommendation from me.

Camiah

So I suppose it is my turn to weigh in on this. Chadao, your original comment was condescending and rude, and an extremely unfortunate choice of words if you really wanted to know the reasoning behind my rating, the evolution and development of my tastes, and my feelings about Teavana. A better choice of words might have actually stimulated an interesting discussion, that now, I can guarantee you, will never happen. I accept your apology, and would simply recommend that in future comments (to me or anyone else) you have a modicum of class and check your condescension at the door.

Camiah

Hi Cheryl! It was actually quite interesting to come home this afternoon and rubberneck the thread. I didn’t get a chance to respond when I got up this morning, and it did warm my heart to see some response from others. I was rather gobsmacked when I saw the original comment.

Camiah

Cheryl, I forgot to ask, what did you order from Teavivre? I loved the samples I got from them and quickly drinking down all my black tea so I can get the Keemun and Yunnan Golden tip. I had a little too much fun tea buying at the beginning of the year/end of last year and need to use up what I have before I get more.

SimplyJenW

Nice order, Cheryl. I am getting my third order from there soon….. yes, it is a sickness, that ordering of tea……

Hi Camiah. Sorry to start the trainwreck today, but nothing burns me up more than people who think only their opinion is the right one…..such narrow-mindedness…… (And I would have loved the discussion on how you came to love this tea!)

chadao

@Camiah Thank you for your pardon. I hope that I can continue conversing with you on a more civilized level. On another note, I tried this tea yesterday, and I have to say it was better than the last time I tried it. It was very refreshing on this hot spring day in CO, and I can see why you like it so much!

chadao

@ SimplyJenW I like your input about being a silly American. As to agendas, who does not have an agenda? Who on earth can live a fulfilled life with out an agenda, or as I like to call it, purpose? Of course I will show my true colors from the get go, this is who I am and I am proud of it. I only hope that by joining this blog, I might be able to refine my agendas so that they are more in line with truth, and I thank you for helping me toward this goal.

chadao

I know that Cheryl is done talking to me, but I have to clarify one thing for everyone. I have done my own googling, and I see no connection between Seven Cups and ebay’s China Cha Dao. Before I get suspicious of a fellow steepster member’s veracity, I wonder if someone can show me how these two companies are connected.

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Zocolatte Spice? I think I love you! At least, while I have the four ounces of you that I have. Chocolately, spicy delicious. I like you better than the Azteca Fire that I tried. As Amy oh said in her tasting review, I bet you taste amazing with black tea. Maybe I’ll try that next time.

I prepared a giant travel mug of this to take with me while I took the dog to the emergency vet, and promptly forgot it. It was still warm when I got home; warm and delicious. The chocolate and ginger were the most prominent flavor notes I could detect, though since this is a backlog, I’ll need to have more to make sure. I remember liking it though. It hit the spot after my vet visit.

TheTeaFairy

hope the doggy is alright!

Ninavampi

Is your doggy ok? I hope all went well!

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drank Copper Knot Hongcha by Teavana
186 tasting notes

Hmmm, the first steep I made of this was entirely too strong, not really bitter, I don’t think (I had it before dropping the dog off at the regular vet this morning, so I was more focused on her than the tea)—just not right. It had a mild astringency which was unexpected (don’t ask why, I don’t know), and so rather unwelcome. I used 1 teaspoon of leaf to 12 oz of water, probably too little leaf, and steeped it for three minutes, which, reading other reviews, might have been a minute too much. I don’t quite know how to describe what was wrong with the first cup, it just wasn’t right.

The second steep is better, not so astringent and strong, was done for four minutes. It does resteep well, though I don’t think I’m going to push these for a third resteep. I think I need to brew it with more leaf and less time before I make up my mind about this tea. I wanted to love it immediately, I did buy four ounces during Teavana’s sale, so I have plenty.

Preparation
205 °F / 96 °C 3 min, 0 sec
JacquelineM

I hope your dog is ok!

Ninavampi

Hope your dog is better!! : )

Indigobloom

blech, well hopefully the next cup will be better!

Camiah

She is ok. Instead of pancreatitis, like the emergency vet thought it was, is was enterocolitis. Basically, she ate something that REALLY did not agree with her and the inside layer of her intestines sloughed off (yes, it is as disgusting as it sounds like). Way better than pancreatis. She’s now back at home, still on gastric rest, after spending last night and half of today being pumped full of IV fluids. The only thing not okay are my husband’s nerves (he’s quite the animal lover) and our wallet. Bella is feeling perky enough to try and chase squirrels when she is outside, though she’s been unusually quiet (quiet in our house is so nice….)

SimplyJenW

Aw. I hope everyone is back to their normal self very soon!

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drank Mom's Apple Pie by DAVIDsTEA
186 tasting notes

This is another sample sent to my by Aisling of Tea. I was rather surprised that it was a green tea rather than a black tea base. Somehow, a black tea base just makes more sense to me. I’m not sure if it would change how I feel about the tea any, but it seems to make more sense. Maybe it is just more conventional, and I’m being dull and boring. That well could be the answer too.

Anyhoo, the tea. The smell is amazing. Out of this world delicious. I get apples, I get cinnamon, it is divine. But on the sip I mostly get cinnamon (light) and green tea. I catch a whiff of apple, but no flavor really screams “apple!” to me. Luckily the green tea is not overly vegetal, that would just taste wrong. I’m definitely glad I got to try a sample of it.

Preparation
185 °F / 85 °C 3 min, 0 sec
CHAroma

I’ve tried a lot of apple teas and hardly ever get any apple in the taste. Especially when paired with cinnamon, the cinnamon just overwhelms everything. I wonder why it never quite works out.

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I just got a big box from Teavana today, and the matcha gift set was part of it. Also, it turns out I ordered a lot of tea. More than I realized. Oops.

This would be my very first matcha. It is pretty good! Very green, very grassy, but not vegetal, like some green teas are. My only problem with blending it was that it turns out the bowl that comes with the set is 16 oz. I poured….16 ounces of water. Oops. So blending it was a bit messy, with all the tea sloshing over. Lesson learned, never to be repeated!

I rewhisked it after it was about halfway done. It is much darker now, and still not all the way blended. So the blending process was sort of a bust on this one. Does one have to be patient with the whisking? I may not be patient enough, and stop whisking before it is ready.

Hmm, anyway, I have a lot left, and it isn’t bad. I hope the reputed caffeine buzz kicks in soon, since I could use some energy.

Preparation
175 °F / 79 °C 0 min, 15 sec
Ninavampi

I ordered this too! Sadly I have to wait for someone to bring it to me from the US, but still I am excited to try it!

aisling of tea

I ordered it too, dying to trying out matcha at an affordable price. Expect now it’s on backorder and I get to wait forever for it. Boo.

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