Menghai Tea Factory

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backlog
revisiting this tea. I got it from a Steepster friend – thank you so much.
Last time i tried i wasnt sure what to expect. i was in the beginning of my pu journey.
This is solid shou pu. Strong, smooth, delicious. mrmopar suggested on Instagram that its deep, dark and delicious. i agree. from now on i would call it triple D.

8g 100ml 212F
rinse/pause/7/5/3/5/5/7/10/15/20 etc

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Preparation
Boiling 0 min, 15 sec 8 g 3 OZ / 100 ML
TeaBrat

I have the 2010 version and I have enjoyed it :)

boychik

you need a sample of 2006 to compare :)

TeaBrat

Ha – we can definitely swap if you want… :)

boychik

Coming your way :)

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Shou time of last night.
i start drinking shou every night. it soothes me and I sleep very well after drinking it. it just wraps you in a warm fuzzy blanket. this tea is no exception. Comfort tea.
The color is very bright and burgundy. clear, smooth, no funkiness ( not that i mind;)
For me it wasnt just like regular earthy taste. i find it quite rich, some wine flavors, spicies, cloves maybe. As I’m drinking now it has some minty cool notes and very sweet aftertaste.
Anyway, it was a great experience. thank you tea friend for letting me try this tea. i really appreciate it.

Gongfu
7g 100ml 212F
rinse*2/pause/5/5/7/7/10/15/20sec etc

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Preparation
Boiling 0 min, 15 sec 7 g 100 OZ / 2957 ML

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94

Has this last week during the big snow, nothing like a shou when its snowing. Gift sample from “PUG”. What a well constructed tea this is from the dry to wet leaf, aromas, flavors, everything is consistent making for an enjoyably gong fu session. Stared out the window watching the wild turkeys gobble up the bird seed under the feeder as the snow piled up inch by inch. Flavors of cherry, fig, prune, forest leaves, smoky all good. Thickish in the mouth with a sweet good astringency. Need to get some more soon.

Preparation
205 °F / 96 °C 0 min, 15 sec 10 g 3 OZ / 100 ML
awilsondc

I’ve thought about getting this cake. I might just have to pull the trigger here and get one before they get too expensive!

mrmopar

You can still find them at good prices if you search. Beware of fakes though there are lots of Dayi fakes out there. more so in sheng but I have seen shou fakes as well.

BigDaddy

OMG I can’t begin to think how I would know the difference. Is it the vendor you buy from online. I trust a few explicitly, YS, BT, Mandala a few. If it comes down to reading the wrapper I’m sunk.

mrmopar

They have a security seal on the newer ones. If you are ever in “doubt” send me the links before you buy.

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Drank this earlier today. I was expecting a lot. It did not come close to living up to expectations. I bought this from Dragon Tea House. In its first infusion I immediately noticed a strong bamboo flavor, and not in a good way. It did not have the flavor and creaminess you expect from a Dayi ripe puerh of any class, let alone a Golden Needle White Lotus brick. It was not very good. The bamboo flavor did persist but got weaker. It did not have the sweet flavor you expect from a good puerh but tasted bland, for lack of a better word. In short it tasted like a $5 brick, not a $40 brick, or was it $45. I also wonder if it is a fake, but for this I have only the taste of the tea for evidence. I will post my instagram pictures. If anyone knows about this brick let me know.

I brewed this five times in a 220ml Gaiwan with 9.1g leaf and boiling water. I steeped it for 10 sec, 5 sec, 10 sec, 15 sec, and 30 sec.

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Flavors: Bamboo

Preparation
Boiling 0 min, 15 sec 9 g 7 OZ / 220 ML
boychik

i had a sample of it. i didnt like it. it didnt impress me at all. but 2007 Menghai Golden Needle white lotus is very very good. sadly i bought a sample fr mandala. and they dont have it anymore ;(

AllanK

Dragon Tea House has refunded my money. Perhaps the one from Mandala was good. This one wasn’t.

TeaBrat

It was nice that they gave you a refund anyway.

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95

This is an excellent, somewhat bittersweet tea with virtually zero fermentation flavor. It is about a par with the 2008 Song of Chi Tse as far as fermentation flavor goes, only much stronger. This is an excellent tea for someone who likes a strong tea but hates fermentation flavor. I was not paying close attention to the flavor notes of this tea but I did find some notes of dark chocolate early on which changed in character in later steeps. It got less chocolaty and more sweet.

I steeped this tea eight times in a 207ml Taiwan Clay Teapot with 8.5g leaf and boiling water. I steeped it for 10 sec, 10 sec, 15 sec, 20 sec, 30 sec, 1 min, 2 min, and 4 min. Judging by the strength of the eighth steep I am guessing that this tea had another six or so steeps left to it.

Flavors: Dark Bittersweet, Dark Chocolate

Preparation
Boiling 0 min, 15 sec 8 g 7 OZ / 207 ML
mrmopar

Wei Zui Yans are a favorite of mine and seem to hit some good notes about 3 years out.

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last night session
last time i had this tea i probably didnt use enough. it was ok but nothing special.
this time i decided to increase the amount to 8g. it made a huge difference. this tea is rich smooth and creamy. i’m happy to have it in my cupboard.

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Preparation
Boiling 0 min, 15 sec 8 g 3 OZ / 100 ML
jschergen

That’s a favorite of mine. I think its a clear cut above most of the rest of Menghai’s ripes.

I have maybe one more session with my mini-cake. Wishing I stocked up more!

Red Fennekin

The photos are amazing! The liquor in the final shot looks divine… :D

boychik

thank you Red Fennekin. the brew is thick strong and creamy. i dont think its very caffeinated. i had 4 steeps around midnight and fell asleep immediately ;)

TeaBrat

this is a winner….

jschergen

Thanks! Is that where you bought it from?

It may just be the cynic in me, but their price is beneath the Chinese market which has left me concerned about it being a potential fake. I’d feel a lot more confident knowing someone has gotten the tea and it was pretty alright.

Cheers!

boychik

i bought it at Mandala. but i placed couple orders with them. its not fake what i received. You can ask mrmopar and Dignitea. they ordered fr them as well. Look at Tuocha Tea, their prices are low too
i got fr Angelina’s 2006 Haiwan * Peacock Quest * Ripe
2008 Menghai “Hong Yun” Ripe Pu-erh Mini and something else i dont remember. All authentic

TeaBrat

Mandala doesn’t carry these anymore but I definitely trust them, don’t know much about Angelina’s tea however. I got my 2009 from Jas-e tea but they’re also out.

DigniTea

James – I have purchased several things from Angelinas and I have been happy with each one. I picked up one of these Zi Yuns but it is my second so I’ve not yet tried it. Today I am enjoying a 2005 6FTM MengSong purchased at Angelinas last year. It’s a good one.

TeaBrat

@DigniTea – great, now I want one :P

Terri HarpLady

I almost drank this one today :)

boychik

Terri, the day is not over yet. You can still make it cause its awesome! Unless you have other plans ;)

mrmopar

The “Dayi Hong” is good and similar to this.

jschergen

@DigniTea @boychick Thanks for the notes on Angelinas! At less than $10, the risk is certainly not enormous.

Rich

Indeed, I have been looking for this for a while. If it is the real deal I will definitely stock up! If anyone can verify that Angelina’s is carrying this same cake, it would be very much appreciated!

Rich

Oh, I see, Angelina’s has the 2008 version, not 2009. I am wondering how they compare.

boychik

Rich, I got one 2008 Dayi Hong fr Mandala and one fr Angelina. They are absolutely the same.

Rich

Oh, thanks for checking! So the wrapper from the Angelina’s cake says 2009?

boychik

I misunderstood you Rich. I bought this tea fr Mandala. I also bought 2008 Red Rhyme fr Mandala and 2008 Red Rhyme fr Angelina. Those cakes are the same. But last night I ordered Zi Yun fr Angelinas. Hopefully next week I will tell you if they are the same. They ship pretty fast.

mrmopar

I think the one from Angelina’s is actually from 2009. It looks legit though.

boychik

Ok. Got it. Very impressed. Placed an order on Wed , got it Sat . Don’t forget that it was Thanksgiving week. It is 2008. Looks exactly like 2009. Box, menghai sticker. Looks good to me.

TeaBrat

that is so funny, I ended up ordering one too. Just have to go to the post office to pick it up next week. :))

boychik

Sorry for being enabler, TeaBrat ;)

awilsondc

Based on this thread I placed an order with Angelina’s to get that Zi Yun. It is legit, and tastes just like the one I got from Mandala. However… I bought an Adorned in Red cake and a couple loose leaf teas that were HORRIBLE! Tastes like they were stored in a fragrant environment and the odors soaked into the tea making it pretty much undrinkable. I might be able to air it out over a couple months and save it, but I was not pleased. The Zi Yun comes in a box in addition to the wrapper which may have saved it from succumbing to the same fate as the open cake and loose leaf tea. Buyer beware.

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95

I got this tea recently in an order from Dragon Tea House. As always I checked the seal for the security mark and it passed admirably. It is quite good. There is only a little bit of fermentation flavor left, not much. There was some in the first three steeps but not enough to bother most fermentation sensitive individuals. I brewed this in a large, 350ml Yixing this morning so I only steeped it five times. I will leave the leaves for later and maybe steep it one more time or so. I figure I have already got most of the caffeine so another steep later on shouldn’t keep me awake tonight.

This tea had a variety of complex notes, most notably sweet notes after the fermentation earthiness was gone. I would describe them as berry or even dates notes, maybe both. I added a small amount of sugar which may have accentuated the sweet notes. But then again, I always add sugar and this tea is still sweeter than most.

I brewed this five times in a 350ml Yixing Teapot with 12.3g leaf and boiling water. I steeped it for 10 sec, 10 sec, 15 sec, 20 sec, and 30 sec. In the fifth steep the tea did not get appreciably weaker, only a little. I would say that this tea could go for at least 10 to 12 steeps, respectable.

Flavors: Berry, Dates, Earth, Sweet

Preparation
Boiling 0 min, 15 sec 12 g 12 OZ / 350 ML
TeaBrat

I was looking at their website yesterday, they have sooo many puerh!

AllanK

I think they and Yunnan Sourcing have about the best selection. Their shipping works out to cheaper though unless you use the new shipping option at Yunnan Sourcing for packages below 2kg. Basically an E Packet but he calls it something else. Yunnan Sourcing EMS shipping is expensive and ground takes ten weeks.

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This is a tasty tea, good but not incredible, yet. I think it will get much better with five years of proper storage. It was quite earthy in the early steeps. The earthiness lasted through the third steep and noticeably dissipated in the fourth steep. It was gone by the fifth steep. There was a slight bitterness in the first steep that started to dissipate by the second steep and was gone by the third steep. The fifth and sixth steep found the tea with a sweet, almost fruity flavor that might be described by the word plums. Overall this is an excellent quality puerh from Dragon Tea House for a reasonable price. It was only $20.69 for a 357g cake. I think this tea is about in the middle of the Dayi quality range even though the price is quite low.

I brewed this tea six times in a 220ml gaiwan with 8.5g leaf and boiling water. I steeped it for 10 sec, 5 sec, 10 sec, 15 sec, 20 sec, and 30 sec. Judging by the strength of the tea in the sixth steep I would guess the tea had at least two more steeps to it. This is a tea that started out quite strong in the first infusion but got slightly weaker than usual. The next time I brew it I shall try to remember it needs more time in the later infusions.

Flavors: Earth, Sweet

Preparation
Boiling 0 min, 15 sec 8 g 7 OZ / 220 ML

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91

Thank you Mr Mopar for this sample. This tea is strong. The bitterness lasted the first six infusions then no noticeable bitterness. There were some sweet notes, but in the later infusions. I would say that notes of apricots emerged in the seventh steep and notes of stonefruits emerged in the 1oth steep. Overall this was an excellent tea. I would say that this tea could have gone 20 infusions, it was that strong and I only used 6g of tea too for 150 ml. There was even a bit of what I would normally describe as aged flavor, notes I have usually only found in a semi aged sheng tea.

I steeped this tea thirteen times in a 150ml Gaiwan with boiling water. I steeped it for 10 sec, 10 sec, 15 sec, 20 sec, 30 sec, 45 sec, 1 min, 1 min 15 sec, 1min 30 sec, 2 min, 3 min, 4 min, and 5 min. This tea did not appreciably lose strength even in the 13th steep, it was that strong. I would say this tea is capable of going 20 steeps. I have not thrown out the leaves and may save them for tomorrow.

Flavors: Apricot, Bitter, Stonefruits

Preparation
200 °F / 93 °C 0 min, 15 sec 6 tsp 5 OZ / 150 ML

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93

This tea, obtained from Yunnan Sourcing USA, is an excellent ripe puerh. It seems far more aged than a 2013 tea has a right to be. It has lost a considerable amount of fermentation flavor. There was a little fermentation flavor in the first three steeps, then pretty much none. While I was tired and not paying attention to the specifics it was sweet with little or no bitterness. It had plenty of complex notes, I just wasn’t paying attention to the specifics. While I would not use the phrase tea drunk, this tea had a nice relaxing effect on me. I have heard that Wei Zui Yan means the strongest taste. This tea was not horribly strong, probably because it was better aged than it had a right to be at only a year old. This tea was a pleasant surprise. I expected it to be good, I expected quality. It surpassed most 2013 teas I have ever drank. It was damn good.

I brewed this six times in a 207ml Taiwan Clay Teapot with 8.6g leaf and boiling water. I steeped it for 10 sec, 5 sec, 10 sec, 15 sec, 20 sec, and 30 sec. I would have steeped it at least two or three more times but I have to be up for work tomorrow morning. I certainly think it had four or more steeps left to it.

Flavors: Sweet

Preparation
Boiling 0 min, 15 sec 8 g 7 OZ / 207 ML
mrmopar

I like these Wei Zui Yan’s a lot too.

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Flavors: Mint, Oak wood, Spicy, Sweet

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90

This is excellent tea. I brewed this eight times over a period of hours. It was slightly bitter and slightly sweet. It had a variety of complex notes but I admit I was not paying attention. I will pay more attention next time. The tea did not lose strength even in the eighth steep. I used slightly more tea than usual so it was strong.

I brewed this eight times in a 207ml Taiwan Clay Teapot with 10g leaf and boiling water. I steeped it for 10 sec, 5 sec, 10 sec, 10 sec, 15 sec, 20 sec, 30 sec, and 1 min.

Preparation
Boiling 0 min, 15 sec 10 g 7 OZ / 207 ML

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91

Tea friend samples yay!

This stuff is pretty damn super. No fermentation flavors, just a light, pleasant earthiness. It has an interesting astringent finish, but nothing unpleasant. I’m definitely enjoying this one. I’d buy some, but I’m trying to refrain… for now. LOL

Preparation
200 °F / 93 °C 0 min, 15 sec 5 g 4 OZ / 118 ML

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Broke out a shou for tonight and the clay pot for it.
I started this one out with about 12 grams gave a good rinse and let it sit for 30 mins before brewing to re-hydrate.
To be as young as this shou no off aromas or “metallic” as some have being this young. Did a 8 second or so brew on this one. I poked around the leaf in the pot and there seems to be a fair amount of green leaf in this. Lightly fermented for sure. light on the palate, hints of oak, dates, raisins and a slight caramel to this one. Very reminiscent of another great shou from a local seller. Nice and velvety. Easy drinking and being enjoyed. Full 10 oz brew with the pot. I should gongfu this at a later date.

Flavors: Caramel, Dates, Oak wood, Raisins

Preparation
205 °F / 96 °C 0 min, 15 sec 12 g 10 OZ / 295 ML
TeaBrat

do you remember where you bought this from?

mrmopar

@TeaBrat Berylleb king Tea off ebay. I can hook you up with direct sales from them if you need it.

TeaBrat

lol, probably not a good idea ;)

mrmopar

@teabrat, they sell samples on about everything…..

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75

i think that this tea is the correct one. KallieBoo sent these my way a while back and i haven’t yet had a chance to sit down with them. I’ve been drinking this over the afternoon while helping my other half feed the little one he’s looking after. I am apparently better at making kiddo eat solids lol I don’t have much to say about this one beyond it’s feeling very middle of the road for me. It’s not bad, it’s not knock your socks off…it’s just kind of there. being tea. neither FANTASTIC! or OMG GROSS… just there. Glad to have gotten the chance to try this, but nothing i need to restock. :)

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93

This tea was really good, almost spectacular for the price, $8.99. This tea was well aged, it had almost no fermentation flavor, just a little in the second and third steeps. It had a little more fermentation flavor than my benchmark tea, the 2008 Song of Chi Tse, but not very much. It did not have as many complex notes as the Song of Chi Tse but it held its own with complex notes having the common dates or sweet notes common to ripe puerh. I will admit I was not paying that much attention to its complexities, and I added sugar so that intensified the sweet notes quite a bit but they were there none the less. The spent leaves had the aroma of dried cacao to a large extent. I will probably pick up two more of these the next time I order from Dragon Tea House. This is definitely worth adding on to your next Dragon Tea House order but may not be worthy of an order by itself. Despite how much I liked this brick, it is still a cheap brick, but then again Menghai Tea Factory does cheap bricks right. I steeped the hell out of this tea. Using a small amount of tea I got eight good steeps out of it. I think I would have gotten two more steeps in if I wanted more tea tonight. This tea definitely holds it own for the price.

I steeped this eight times in a 220 ml gaiwan with 9g leaf and boiling water. I steeped it for 15 sec, 10 sec, 15 sec, 20 sec, 30 sec, 1 min, 2 min, and 8 min. I dramatically increased the time for the eighth steep because the tea got a little weak in the seventh steep. If this tea was made of higher quality leaves it would be worth a 100% score, as it is I give it about a 93% score.

Flavors: Dates, Sweet

Preparation
Boiling 0 min, 15 sec 9 g 7 OZ / 220 ML
93

This tea is tasty. I have heard that Wei Zui Yan means the strongest taste and it is true. This is a very strong tea, the strongest puerh I can remember drinking. There was a moderate amount of fermentation flavor but not too much. I also feel that this tea had a very strong Qi even though I admit I don’t know as much as I should about Qi. If Qi is the physical and psychological effect the tea has on you, this one is strong. I will not use the phrase tea drunk but I was most relaxed. Throughout the early steeps I was testing a theory, that sugar dulls the Qi of tea. I find that when I omit sugar I get more effect from the tea. This was the case with this tea. The first five steeps I drank without sugar and it had quite an effect on me. The last three I added sugar and felt less effect. His could also be because the tea was weaker by that point. There was a little bitterness in the early steeps that soon went away. There was a natural sweetness to this tea with notes of plums or dates hidden beneath the strength of the tea.

I steeped this tea 8 times in a 130ml Yixing teapot with 6g leaf and boiling water. I steeped it for 15 sec, 10 sec, 15 sec, 20 sec, 30 sec, 1 min, 2 min, and 5 min. The tea would have a few more steepings in it but I have had enough tea today. I very much recommend this tea to anyone who likes strong puerh and can take a little bit of fermentation flavor.

Flavors: Sweet

Preparation
Boiling 0 min, 15 sec 6 g 4 OZ / 130 ML
Sarsonator

If you try this again with no sugar at all, I’d be interested to hear your results and whether you can rule out the possibility that the tea was just getting weaker.

AllanK

At some point perhaps.

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Mmm good shou! I’ve been so lucky to get to try so many great puerh samples lately.

This one has lots of earthy flavors and no funk. I don’t know how to describe it other than this is what shou is supposed to taste like. Kind of basic but super clean and enjoyable!

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Another tea from the wonderful boychik

smooth, easy drinking. The first few infusions have that weird taste that is gone by the third steeping. Long lasting. (I have to leave before I’m done, so I’ll save the leaves and finish up tomorrow.)

I’m getting a nice calm from this tea, too, with a bit of energy. More of a focus than a calm, I guess. Hmmm. Hopefully, it helps me with sprints in a little bit.

boychik

It’s nice smooth sheng. Few days ago I sample one and felt completely drugged. I wouldn’t really mind before going to bed but it was 2pm and I had to drive to pick up kids fr school ….

Stephanie

I love the focused/calm thing. Sheng is so weird!

Cheri

It was quite tasty. I may have to get some of this.

Terri HarpLady

love me some sheng!

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98

This tea was good, I enjoyed it immensely. There were a lot of complex notes in this tea. That being said I would have trouble telling you what they were. I wasn’t paying attention to the nuances having dislocated my knee today. I needed a good tea session today and I got it. There was virtually no fermentation flavor left. There was no bitterness or astringency. There was no sour taste. I do detect some chocolate notes to it and sweet notes but I can’t describe it better. I steeped the hell out of this tea and can honestly say I have had enough tea for tonight.

I steeped this nine times in a 207ml Taiwan Clay Teapot with 7.2g leaf and boiling water. I gave it one short rinse and steeped it for 15 sec, 10 sec, 15 sec, 20 sec, 30 sec, 1 min, 2 min, 5 min, and 10 min. It held its strength well through the first six steeps. It was pretty weak in steep nine. This was the best tea I have had in a while.

Flavors: Chocolate, Sweet

Preparation
Boiling 0 min, 15 sec 7 tsp 7 OZ / 207 ML
boychik

So sorry for your knee :(((

mrmopar

Hope it heals fast Allan. I know about bad knees myself.

TeaBrat

owie, feel better soon!

Sarsonator

Sorry about your knee! I’ve had a bum knee my whole life. The kneecap won’t stay put. Hurts like a mofo when it pops out! Hopefully yours is feeling better today!

Tealizzy

Oh man! At least you had a good tea session! Hope your knee heals quickly!!

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