White 2 Tea

Recent Tasting Notes

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I could discount this tea tea as not very good because it is unlike a dry-stored raw pu-erh but then I decided to take some notes anyway.

7g used. Mid/tight compression.

The dry leaf aroma is raw beetroot; an earthy sweet smell. Liquid is deep red/brown, like a cooked pu-erh after a few steeps. The aroma of the liquid is earthy and not as sweet as the dry aroma.

5s – It is unlike a dry stored pu-erh: instead of being green and herby, and concentrated, it is purple (like a mellow taste of beetroot), sweet and open. It has a lingering soilyness which is not simple, unlike another wet-stored pu-erh I’ve had. To hope it to be like dry-stored pu-erh, you are disappointed. This has a different flavour profile.

12s – The soil taste is not unpleasant as it is accompanied by a warm, raw beetroot (or how I imagine the skin to taste) flavour. There is dust. The flavour does linger.
The dark wet leaves do not have the concentrated, complex aroma of raw pu-erh but instead is much simpler, being between raw beetroot and mustyness.

20s – The liquid is darker; the flavour is stronger. It has a sour taste when swallowing. The beetroot, earthy aroma sparkles on top of a dark earthy base.

22s – More sourness in the swallow. Flavour has dark fruits.

Preparation
7 g 100 OZ / 2957 ML

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77
drank 2004 Jianshen Tuo by White 2 Tea
44 tasting notes

I bought a four-pack of these tuos, difficult to buy just one of these because they cost only $9.80 each. The age already on this tea enticed me, I prefer to buy something with some age on it. The other reviewer of this tea gave it a poor rating, but didn’t know to gong-fu this tea.

The positives are this is one Energizer Bunny of a tea, just goes on and on and on. Two days in and I’m wondering when it will end. The shiboridashi is stuffed to the gills and I’ve got more buds and leaves than sticks. Long huigan, thick and full, very bitter when pushed with boiling water and less so with cooler water. Mellows to sweet on the tongue.

Description includes tobacco notes, but this is more of a fresh pipe tobacco. There is no actual char from processing in this tea, so for me this doesn’t qualify as smoky. Not compared to a Menghai or Xiaguan raw tuo. The soup starts out caramel colored and yellows after the fourth steep or so.

One downside is the tea was dry stored and is still so green. It is definitely in second stage and hasn’t turned any corners yet into something I would consider aged. My tea fridge storage doesn’t penetrate the thick paper so well. I transferred the tuos to stoneware. Would love to ship them off to puerh boarding school for a year of humid storage. I like a bit of traditional storage on my tea, but not so much it obscures other flavors. This tea is very strong and could take a year of humidity without losing the other flavors. As it is now, the tuo tastes like a lot of other teas I’ve had, the dusky apricot with caramel notes.

Dunno if I’ll be around when this tea matures into a dark, red/brown love nest, still got so far to go. The material is what we want for aging, but I’m probably too far ahead of this tea myself.

Photos and blog post which is mostly unrelated to the tea itself, at http://deathbytea.blogspot.com

Flavors: Apricot, Caramel, Tobacco

Preparation
Boiling 0 min, 15 sec 8 g 3 OZ / 100 ML
Yang-chu

pu’er boarding school… that’s a good one.

apt

Sounds like I gotta pick one up.

Ag

I picked up one of these in my first White2Tea order and it accidentally became my default study tea. Tasty, strong, helps keep me awake/focused without actually getting tea buzzed/drunk, and lasts forever. I think it took me close to three days to steep it out. Gotta get more at some point.

Cwyn

Omg yeah 3rd day in and I can’t steep out that Jianshen, well past 20 steeps.

Ag

“The Jianshen is like a young boy toy who won’t go home and doesn’t seem to sleep.”

I fell out of my chair from laughing so hard at that description in your latest blog post. So hilariously accurate.

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Manzhuan + Spring + gushu. What’s not to like? This tea is even better than I expected (since it is a new 2014 tea, I figured I would try it just for fun and then wait a few years to enjoy it). The dry leaf looks very nice; the aroma of the brew is pleasantly fresh and sweet; the liquor is a clear yellow; the flavor of the sip is smooth, sweet, and slightly fruity. This tea is lovely and very easy to drink. What a lovely sheng to own (even though it is rather pricey)!! I rather doubt this particular cake gets much age because I am likely to pull it out frequently to pick off more leaf.

Preparation
190 °F / 87 °C 0 min, 15 sec 6 g 3 OZ / 100 ML
Cwyn

This one makes me sooo tea drunk, hahaha!

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75

7g used.
5s – Lots of flavour! Green, herby. Long green herby finish. Hardly any bitterness.
10s – Getting stronger on the flavour, in a pleasant way. It has some complexity which makes it very interesting to drink.

Preparation
7 g 3 OZ / 100 ML

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90
drank 2014 New Amerykah 2 by White 2 Tea
139 tasting notes

This tea is really good. I find myself liking sheng more than ever before. It was a little fruity as the description says and there were slight notes of apricots. It was just a tiny bit bitter in the first steeping. This was gone by the second steeping. By the fourth steeping it was very smooth. It was slightly sweet too (not meaning sugar sweet). It was good.

I steeped this four times in a 140 ml yixing teapot with 5g leaf and 200 degree water. I steeped it for 15 sec, 10 sec, 15 sec, and 20 sec. It had a very pale yellow color.

Flavors: Fruity

Preparation
195 °F / 90 °C 0 min, 15 sec 5 tsp 5 OZ / 140 ML

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92
drank 2005 Naka by White 2 Tea
44 tasting notes

This is the most intense tea I’ve tried to date. That is, the stoner kind of tea. 8 grams per 125 ml of this and I become unbearably wonderful. And I can’t shut up. Also, I crave salty snacks and chocolate. After 8 steeps I turn into Spinoza and start writing mystical essays.

I can only attribute the effect this tea has to the small mountain tea leaves of the wild trees on Naka mountain, as opposed to the plantation or terrace type of teas produced in the same area. I compare two cheaper Nakas and even sent a sample of this to a friend to be sure I’m not crazy.

If the price of this tea scares you off, I can recommend the 2007 Spring Naka Qiao Mu Bamboo Raw from Chawangshop which also appears to be the small mountain leaf, and I got a bit of a buzz on that, nowhere near as intense as this tea. But an okay substitute, and I have reviewed that here too. This 2005 Naka has a slight humid storage which I prefer to the drier storage of the Chawangshop bamboo.

More comparisons on my tea blog, http://deathbytea.blogspot.com.

Flavors: Apricot, Wet wood

Preparation
Boiling 0 min, 15 sec 8 g 4 OZ / 125 ML

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drank 2014 White2Tea 46&2 by White 2 Tea
152 tasting notes

Dry – Sweet, fruity, refreshing, buttery?, bitter floral and slightly nutty.
Wet – Warm sugar sweetness with very apparent tobacco and some faint smoke, fruits, cream, floral and nutty.
Liquor – Light amber to Amber.

This notes is a summary of two separate sessions in porcelain gaiwan

The first steep in both sessions were sweet and mellow with a fast overtake of the tobacco notes up front. As it went down, the texture was thick/creamy while still wearing the tobacco notes, yet it feels sweeter with fruity and nutty notes.

Following steeps switch to a tobacco front with the sweetness coming in second together with bitter-tobacco and bittersweet floral notes and some nutty and herbaceous hints up front. As it goes down, it has a thick and almost creamy texture, but has some minor astringency to it. The fruity and floral notes a more apparent as the liquor washes down, yet will continue to hold the tobacco notes.

Final steeps are about the same in terms of the notes you find and the order, but much more mellowed down and a refreshing finish easier to detect.

Final Notes

I liked this one, It has strong tobacco notes, but is not overwhelming. I’d say this is definitely stronger than the Repave, but WAY gentler than a Xiaguan the same age would be and has a lasting Huigan.

Flavors: Creamy, Medicinal, Sweet, Tobacco

Preparation
205 °F / 96 °C 6 g 4 OZ / 130 ML

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90

This pu’er doesn’t quit! I got 17 infusions!

2002 White2tea White Whale has plenty of camphor minty notes, some woodsy enoki mushroom and a hint of smoke. Later steepings the tea smooths out, gets sweeter but the refreshing notes remain (and don’t go away). A little bit of dryness, but still very easy to drink and forgiving to steep.

For $15 for a 100gram cake (price going up sooon!) this is a great deal for a cake with some age on it, especially if you are new to pu’er. Recommended!

Full review on my blog, The Oolong Owl http://oolongowl.com/2002-white2tea-white-whale-raw-puer/

Preparation
Boiling

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70

This is a pleasant enough shou. The predominant flavor is definitely wood with perhaps a little leather flavor. This tea really is very smooth. Almost too smooth for my liking as there is very little that really stands out in this tea, but maybe that should be expected for the low price, which is really exceptional at just $12 a cake. I have had better luck brewing western style which produces a more flavorful cup. Because of the low price I have also enjoyed messing around with cold brewing it after a couple quick rinses which resulted in a pretty interesting iced tea. To give you an idea of how hard it is to get flavor out of this I steeped 7 grams in 24 oz. water for 48 hours to produce a flavorful enough iced tea. It was a fun experiment.

In the end I don’t think I will buy this again, but I surely do not regret the purchase. As the website says, this may be a great starter tea for those new to puer but i feel I am perhaps past this point in my puer tasting journey.

Preparation
Boiling 5 min, 0 sec 1 tsp 8 OZ / 236 ML

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83

So this was a sample from the lovely and wonderful MzPriss.

At first I didn’t smell the tobacco, but once it was pointed out, I picked it up right away. I do enjoy this one, but I didn’t fall in love. So while I’m quite happy, I went with other White2s in today’s order. :)

Preparation
200 °F / 93 °C 0 min, 15 sec 7 g 6 OZ / 177 ML
Cwyn

Haven’t tried this one.

Sarsonator

I’d send you some, but I just had enough for one session. It has a real kick at the end, but less pleasant than the New Amerykah. It has potential, though.

TheTeaFairy

Yes, cause falling in love is the most important part ;-)

Sarsonator

Well, of course!!!!

Cwyn

Less pleasant than the amerykah? That girl kicked me in the booty, I was drinking shou for two days after that one.

Sarsonator

Yeah, the bitterness was harsher, I thought

Cwyn

Can I ask what you decided to order?

Sarsonator

We got White Whale, New Amerykah 2, and are splitting a cake of the Little Yellow Mark. :)

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92

I really, really, really, really loved this sheng. I can’t EVEN believe this is 2014 tea. It does not taste like baby sheng at ALL (and I <3 baby sheng by the way). It is so smooth and so sweet – there is hardly any bitterness and a very nice mellow body feel. Warm and contented.

But HOLY SHITAKE!!! This bad boy costs over $120 for a small cake. Sobs. I had to decide between this and the Little Yellow Mark and the Little Yellow Mark won. But this is EXCELLENT and I wish I had more disposable income at the moment, or a cake of this would be mine.

Today is a Smokey Robinson kind of day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly8G9Psdqxw

Sarsonator

I’m excited to try it, but I’m glad we already ordered! HA! Now I cannot be tempted too much :)

MzPriss

Nope. I want it, but not as much as other things.

TheTeaFairy

Lol at baby sheng ;-)

Terri HarpLady

and now it looks like the yellow mark is no longer available…

MzPriss

Wow they only had ONE cake of that? We bought one to share. I will send you some when I get it Terri.

Sarsonator

Are you looking at this one, Terri? It doesn’t show out of stock yet.

http://www.white2tea.com/tea-shop/2002-little-yellow-mark-private-order/

Terri HarpLady

cool! I opened their webpage on my iPad earlier & it wasn’t listed.
Thanks! :)

Cheri

This sounds really good. More disposable income…we can dream, right?

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84

I did Sary’s combo method for this. The liquor is pale yellow and the aroma to me is almost completely tobacco. Not a strong overwhelming tobacco, but that is the main aroma to me. This is quite sweet and fairly smooth, especially for its age, but I also taste tobacco with a very slight bitterness and no astringency.

It will interesting to see how this turns out in a few years. Just for fun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oVBvxA0mm0

Flavors: Tobacco

Veronica

Ha! Love the video. Haven’t seen that one in quite some time. :)

Sarsonator

LOL! I love your video notes :)

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89

I like this! I’m not finding it quite as punchy as some – it’s definitely in your face and all over the place. Yeah, it’s bitterish at first but not in a bad way and I LOVE the sweetness. Love it. It’s a baby now, but I think this is gonna be a badass in a few years.

There is an almost grapey flavor, but not quite. There is very little smoke, but some nice tobacco and it keeps getting sweeter.

I’m having a good time with this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBShN8qT4lk

Sarsonator

So glad you like it! I think it has a ton of potential!

MzPriss

I do too. Sarsy. We needs pumidors now.

Sarsonator

Oh jeez. I wonder what the usual humidity in my house is

MzPriss

I have no idea either. We need to huddle up with the puru and get some advice

Sarsonator

Good idea!

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Oh my. Potting soil.

But it does have a very sweet start, and a sweet aftertaste. It’s what is in the middle that’s just not working for me.

I guess this makes me a dry storage kind of girl!

Preparation
200 °F / 93 °C 0 min, 15 sec 5 g 5 OZ / 147 ML
boychik

It’s on my wish list;)

Sarsonator

Boychik – have you tried it????

Stephanie

Potting soil. Ick.

Cwyn

Have tried it too, both at home and brewed by TwoDog at his tea tasting in June. Definitely heavy on the wet storage. I have a theory that people in really humid climates don’t taste or smell musty odors the way dry climate people do. I like some wet storage taste but I like to taste other things too.

boychik

No, that’s why I want to try. I liked JC review. I do live in a humid climate;)

Sarsonator

That seems like a sound theory to me, cwyn :)

Boychik – I’ll send you the rest of mine, if you want it. It was a 25 g sample and I think I used 5 g

boychik

Omg. I can’t say no. Let me know what would you like fr my cupboard.

Terri HarpLady

Life is teacup offers 2 samples of the same tea, except one had wet storage & the other dry, so people can try the difference. I bought the sample, but haven’t really had the time to try them…yet.

apt

Terri: Have you ordered from them in the last month and a half or so? Gingko seems to have dropped off of the planet, she doesn’t respond to emails anymore.

Terri HarpLady

Oh really? I’d say it’s been at least a couple of months since I ordered.

Sarsonator

I’d be interested in trying something like that, to see the difference!

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This tea is a swift kick in the nuts. Woo!

The aroma is very light smoke, but very strong apricots. There are so many flavors that it’s hard to pick them all out. Let’s just say that everything blends together very nicely. It had a stronger bitter finish at first, but it’s only on certain sips and seems to be calming down. It’s not an unpleasant bitterness… it’s hard for me to explain. Some teas have a yucky bitterness that makes you go blargh. This is different. It’s quite nice.

I’m only on steep 3 and this already has my heart pumping. This tea assures me that I am ALIVE!

This was a great way to start the weekend!

Preparation
200 °F / 93 °C 0 min, 15 sec 5 g 5 OZ / 147 ML
TheTeaFairy

Lol, love me a good kick in nuts tea ;-) sounds great… And happy week end to you!

tantonino

Don’t see a kick in the nuts to be followed by a Woo everyday!

Sarsonator

Hahahaa!!! Well I think it gets the point across!

But if you need a different visual… did y’all ever see Super Troopers? And they are doing target practice and the one guy is wearing like a steel jock strap? That’s what I think this is like! LOL

mrmopar

Yep. That’s why I have one aging away. It’s a good one.

Sarsonator

Oh. I did not know it had the Chariman seal of approval, mrmopar :)

AllanK

I have yet to order from White2Tea. They are next on my list. Perhaps next month.

Cwyn

Yep this girl is one heavy tea. Can’t let my meower near it in case he lifts his leg.

Terri HarpLady

I haven’t looked into this company yet, but now I guess I’ll have too…

MzPriss

I think I’ll try this one next.

Sarsonator

White2 is so great!

MzPriss

I like this. It will be spectcaular in a few years

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I have come to appreciate and admire Paul at White2tea because of his firm commitment to uncovering fine teas at very fair prices – this little guy is a great example. I actually picked it up months ago when I placed my first order with him. I could not believe that an aged tea at this low price could be worth drinking. This is definitely a tea to be valued and enjoyed.
I was able to pick off quite easily layers of tea from this little brick. There is definitely the aroma of smoke in the dry leaf but it is not overwhelming – more of an accent. Two short rinses and then let it sit for 15m while the leaves opened a bit. That low level of smoke remained but it was even more subtle when leaves were wet. The tea soup is rather clear with a solid brownish orange tint. The sip offers a woody flavor with that light smoke accent and a bit of camphor thrown into the mix – complex enough for my palate to make it very enjoyable. Note: I would not describe this as a “sweet” tea but the flavor is quite appealing.
Due to all the recent chatter about this tea, I used a lighter amount of leaf (5g) but I think I’ll increase the leaf amount by 50% during the next session just to discover the difference.

Preparation
200 °F / 93 °C 0 min, 15 sec 5 g 3 OZ / 100 ML
Sil

awesome. thanks for this! i’ll have to take a look at their offerings :)

Cwyn

I got a couple of these bricks too, they are so cute I don’t want to unwrap them.

mrmopar

Yep 2 in my cupboard also.

DigniTea

Given the 100g brick size definitely worthy of upsizing to the size of a real cake!

Stephanie

Exciting :)

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85

There has been a lot of buzz about this tea and I finally got a chance to break into my brick tonight. Is it the best puerh that I’ve ever had? Of course not. Is it the best $15/100g puerh that I’ve ever had? Absolutely! The taste was thick and earthy with lots of camphor and even a bit of piney smokiness. In a way, I’m reminded of the rosin that I used to rub my violin bow with back in grade school. It’s been too long since I’ve been able to indulge in a halfway decent puerh and this one went straight to my head.

Flavors: Camphor, Resin, Smoke

Preparation
Boiling 0 min, 30 sec
DigniTea

I too was curious about this one because of all the chatter (but I am a big fan of Paul’s selections anyway). Just picked off my leaf for the first time last night and I am enjoying a session with this little guy right now. Initial reaction - I like it very much!

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54

Reading White 2 Tea’s blurb about the tea, it stresses the price/quality ratio. While I understand that is important…sometimes I just want to drink a good tea regardless of the price.

While this is supposed to be a raw, it certainly reminded me more of a cooked pu-erh. I think this is the Hong Kong Style coming out. I got the cedar, but more than that I got camphor and fish.

I still have a couple infusions to go on this, but so far this has been my least favorite of the three teas.

With my new ranking system I would give it

70 for the taste
16 for the price
75 for the representation

53.66 new ranking (70 old ranking)

Cwyn

Cooked puerh was invented to resembled real aged sheng, which is what this tea is, aged sheng. This tea is an example of wet storage, very humid conditions, hence the musty odor. The field of puerh drinkers are divided into wet vs. dry storage preference. Hong Kong drinkers prefer aged sheng this way. I am coming around to wet stored tea but I want the musty integrated with other tastes, not to overpower the tea. This one seems like all I taste is storage. I sent it as a sample so you can tell what wet storage tastes like, as a way to evaluate it in the future when you taste this flavor again,

SFTGFOP

Yep :) I’m thankful for all of the diverse teas you sent me. Pu-Erhs are something I know so little about this has been a great learning experience for me. I’m really looking forward to the Yunnan Sourcing tea’s as I have heard such good things about them

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95

This was a potent tea! A small amount of leaves really carried a lot of flavor, and brought a small amount of nice bitterness. The flavor was one that was very new to me and I thoroughly enjoyed it. It seemed to have a very satisfying element to it. Maybe that was just because Ive haven’t had too much Pu Erh in the last month… I also found it incredibly intoxicating, sinking me deep into the chair. My mind was buzzing and very relaxed. The color of the liquor was also a beautiful golden color like a brandy or whisky.

Flavors: Earth, Rum, Smoke, Smooth

Preparation
Boiling 0 min, 15 sec 10 g 120 OZ / 3548 ML

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95

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62

I think I liked this one a little more than the Repave I tried earlier; but I can’t tell if it is because this one is more aged!

It started off with a faint camphor that then grew into a butterscotch sweetness in later brewings, the 4th brewing still brewed a strong color but was a bit light on the taste.

Updated Ranking

Taste = 84
Price = 23
Quality = 78

New Rank 62 (old rank 84)

Cwyn

Repave can be bitter unless flash steeped with cooler temps after the initial boil. I liked the Yellow Mark better too.

SFTGFOP

I think I need to change my rating system because I can recognize when some are a good representation, but that doesn’t necessarily mean I like them. Which makes me struggle on which one I should rank my score!

SFTGFOP

I’m drinking the Hong Kong style storage, and afraid it is my least favorite. :/

Cwyn

Agreed, mine too. But I have friends who would much prefer the HK.

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