Dexter said

Need help choosing new clay pot

http://crimsonlotustea.com/products/jianshui-zitao-clay-teapot-fangu-style-polished-black

http://yunnansourcing.com/en/teapots/574-baolanzhunifangguyixingteapotbyzhuxinnan.html

Help which of these two pots should I get. There are pros and cons to both. I don’t know enough about the difference in clay, quality, etc. I just know I want a black pot in that style. Opinions?

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scribbles said

Aesthically, I find the Crimson Lotus pot more pleasing. I would choose that one :) As for quality and clay difference //shrugs// dunno. But I buy stuff that pleases me artistically…not always necessarily for its usefulness or quality :\

Dexter said

LOL I’m just addicted to cute clay pots. I think I’m concerned that it might be the quality of the photos that makes the Crimson Lotus one more aesthically pleasing…. if I’m going to spend in that price range, would like to get a good one. Thank you for your thoughts. :)

scribbles said

I bought one of their clay pots, and I am very pleased with the quality and beauty of it. BUT, I don’t have any other clay pots to compare it to, so yes, my opinion is biased. I’m sure there are many other steepster and instagram members that will be able to offer you an unbiased opinion on which one you should go for…enjoy whichever one suits your needs and tastes!! :)

Dexter said

Happy that you are pleased with the one you got. I’ve bought a few but not from either of these vendors. :)

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They are both so pretty. I know nothing about clay!

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boychik said

Dex, I really really love Jian Shui pots for sheng or shou. They are better than Yixing in my humble opinion. Plus that YS pot is huge. 230ml. I vote for Jian Shui either from CLT or YS . The clay is from Yunnan. It’s thick, heavy and retains heat better

Dexter said

I love your opinions and insight. I will always listen and try to learn from you, but we will always disagree about pot size. :))))) I think 230 is a little too big, but 160 is a little too small. Neither are the perfect size for my taste. I really like the shape of these, just wondering if CLT was worth the few extra dollars. Seems both of you think so….. :))

boychik said

If size don’t matter… And you want black one… CLT. Don’t know if you need an assistance with the tea from them ;)

boychik said

Another advice. Get the one you love. Not because it cheaper. But you know this :D

Dexter said

http://crimsonlotustea.com/collections/shou-ripe-puerh/products/2012-bulang-gushu-ancient-tree-shou-ripe-puerh-250-grams
I’m going to get a sample of this. I’m going to try the two you sent me tomorrow and see if I need to add them on. Unless there is something else you think I have to try.

Price is always a consideration, but these two pots are in the same range, price was not going to be the deciding factor. If one of them was in the 200.00 range then the conversation would be different. :))

boychik said

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Dexter, I own that clay from YS in a different shape, it’s one of my favorite pot! It’s super porous and retains the oil of the tea so well, it’s perfect for puerh, especially for shou.

I also own the Jian Shui pots from CL and they are some of my favorite pots as well lol, so difficult choice!

I think you can’t go wrong which ever way you go… If you order from Crimson Lotus, I agree that you CAN’T ignore the Gushu 2012… I’m blazing through my 250g and will have to order more very soon!
Let us know what you end up doing :-)

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MzPriss said

I also have the Crimson Lotus in two shapes and I have the black clay from YS in a different shape. I love them all. I’m slightly tilted toward the Crimson Lotus. They are such sweet pots – I LOVE my black YS pot – a LOT, but if you don’t have a CL pot – you should.

Dexter said

LOL I appreciate that I “should” have a CL pot but I also don’t have one from YS…. I’m feeling like I should get a CL one now while they are in stock and keep watching YS for another style/design that catches my eye.

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Tealizzy said

I have two of the CLT pots, and I love them! Like Scribbles, though, I don’t have any others to compare them to. They are solid, thick, and pour well. I use one for shou and one for sheng. Good luck with your decision!

Dexter said

Thanks. TheTeaFairy posted on Instagram that the CLT pots are blacker than the YS ones…..that might be my deciding factor. I hsve a couple of dark brown ones and was hoping for black. :)

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Can one use a Jian Shui pot for something else other than pu’erh? My only yixing is seasoned to shou but I feel that I don’t need another one for that. And I’m not much of a sheng drinker.

Man, I’ve been eyeing those black clay pots from Crimson Lotus since they became available…

Tealizzy said

I don’t see why not. I think someone bought one to use with Dian hong black tea. Probably could use it for dark oolongs too.

Sure you can KiwiDelight. The clay used in these teapots comes from the same mountains where puerh trees grow that’s one of the reason lots of people use them for puerh and they also retain heat very well so that’s always a plus for puerh. But like any other clay you can use it for any tea you’d like! No rules :-)

Dexter said

I have no idea about the different clays and what works well for what. I have a yixing seasoned for Fujian Blacks and I love it…

Dexter said

I think I’m going to put moonlight into the red one I posted on Instagram. No rules…. :)

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Coolio! Thanks, guys :]

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boychik said

I would not buy Jian Shui for greens or green oolongs. They will be cooked in my opinion. But I may be wrong.
@ Kiwi. You can always re season your existing Yixing for any other tea. This clay is just so good for Puerh. I’ve seen ppl on IG re seasoning pots after getting Jian Shui for pu

The idea of re-seasoning sounds tempting. I’ve only been using my yixing a couple times a month, for sixth months. Seems more than doable?

boychik said

I see no problem at all. You “hardly” used it. I remember Stacy suggested gently boil with tofu. You should ask her. Or maybe just simple re boil will be enough

boychik said

Btw using Jian Shui for sheng could really help falling in love with it. It’s just smoothing and makes it perfect. If you decide to buy a pot. Try sheng first and see. You might like it a lot

I’m making plans…just hoping that it won’t sell out by then. Would I have to season it with sheng? I don’t have enough.

Tealizzy said

I didn’t season mine, just started using them with a bit more leaf than I normally would use, and now I’ve scaled back to the amount I normally would use. The whole boiling thing scared me and it wasn’t really necessary.

scribbles said

Like Tealizzy – I didn’t season mine in boiling water either. I let it sit in hot water (I forget for how long), and then just started using extra leaf. I read through a lot of MarshalN’s blogs, and reading about pots having bad accidents in boiling water turned me off. But, being a new owner to a pot, I don’t know how well letting the pot sit in hot water will work for re-seasoning. Hope it works out! :)

I had an ok first experience with boiling my pot. I simply wanted to try the practice – and then seasoning it – for the sake of doing it at least once. How many extra grams is ideal?

Tealizzy said

Kiwi- I’d recommend an additional gram or two for your first few sessions. I was used to using about 6, so I put in 8…depends on the sheng though, and the size of the pot.

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