Rasseru said

Oolong gongfu tips?

I do prefer Oolong western or grandpa style, a nice big cup of it. but this is expensive for some of them, and also its nice sometimes to spread out the tea over time…

Typically I’m doing 20-40 sec steeps with ~2.5/3g, slowly increasing by 10 or 20 seconds. I only have my (I think) 100ml edit* 60ml Gaiwan. generally just off boiling/fisheye.

Im adjusting this per experience with the various teas, but wondering if anyone had any other tips or ways of brewing to share with me?

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It depends on the oolong you are using but I tend to use way more leaf than that, like 6 to 9 grams for around 100ml. Some people just fill the gaiwan and go crazy with shorter steeps.

You can always get a smaller gaiwan. I use a 40ml vessel for me more expensive oolongs.

edit, brewing ideas from teadb http://teadb.org/wuyi-oolong-compendium/

http://teadb.org/taiwanese-oolong-compendium/

Rasseru said

its often a third to half filled, which negates what size it is, right? id heard that this was a ‘normal’ amount

Rasseru said

Damn that wuyi article & its lovely tea. Oolong can be so expensive!

“Some people just fill the gaiwan and go crazy…” This is me XD I basically fill it (idk how many grams) and just do flash steeps for a while.

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Rasseru said

my gaiwan is small. im trying to judge by eye and its more curved inwards than i thought – actually now i think it is a 40 or 50ml one looking at it up against my 12oz bodum glass.

edit* its 60ml

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Typically I use much less tea for grampa-style vs. gongfu. In a 16oz. Glass I usually only fill the bottom, using around 2g or so. My rule of thumb (besides the 1/4-1/3 rule of filling the gaiwan) is to use 1g of leaf per 20ml.

Rasseru said

i use the same amount as you grandpa style – drinking some right now.

and yeah i am on the right track as you both with my gaiwan

Any other tips anyone can think of?

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yyz said

I like you tend to use a lot less leaf than some others here for most Oolong’s with the exception of a number of Dancongs which I tend to steep chaozou style ( lots of leaf and flash steeping) The amount of leaf I use otherwise depends on what I want out of the experience !its of leaf can lead to a longer gongfu session and may increase my chances of getting Tea drunk but it also tends to increase the vegetal notes in green Oolong’s for me. I tend to use less leaf when testing Teas because at least for me the subtle nuances in the flavour become more apparent for me. Most of the time I use between 3.5-5 g /100g. The steeping time varies widely depending on the Tea. My strongly flavoured green Oolong’s only usually require a 5s initial steep with increases only being 2-5 s in the early stages. Length of steep increases lengthen as the flavour weakens in shorter steeps. Others require longer initial steeps but increases are still usually between 5-10s.

Rasseru said

Interesting, thanks

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LuckyMe said

For flavored oolongs, I find 2-2.5 grams tea to be sufficient. I steep for 2 minutes in a 150 ml gaiwan, filled about 75% of the way, adding a minute to each additional steep.

Unflavored teas, I do western style with 4m/6m/7m steeps at 185-195 F using 1.5-2 grams of tea. I prefer roasted oolongs western style and the best flavor of unroasted oolongs come with a higher leaf and shorter steep times.

Rasseru said

I’ll have to try that, less leaf, more time. I if it can save me some leaf that will help. Oolong can be expensive!

LuckyMe said

I find that darker oolongs do much better with western style brewing and require less leaf. Green oolongs in my experience tend to become astringent with long steep times. There are some I’ve tried which simply won’t work any other way except gongfu.

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Psyck said

You said you like a big cup of tea. If you are going to brew it in your 60ml gaiwan, you cannot do it western style – since you need multiple steeps to get a large cup and western style brewing will take so long that the earlier steeps will cool down too much.

I use 6gm in a 90ml gaiwan and mix 3 steeps into a large mug for drinking. I get 3 mugs (1 mug per 2gm) out of it. Usually the first set of steeps ending at 30 secs, next at 1 min and last at 2 min.

Psyck said

However if you prefer to brew it western style, less leaf, more time, then it would be best to get a large infuser mug for it.

Rasseru said

I have a bodum yo-yo infuser for Western style. I love that cup so much, maybe if it was thinner it woukd be nicer but I’ve dropped it and it just bounced ☺

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LuckyMe said

Wanted to add some recent insights. I’ve had good success with Naivetea’s steeping instructions for straight and flavored oolongs. About 1.5 tsp of tea – which works out to 2.5 to 3 grams for rolled tea – in a 150 ml gaiwan filled 2/3 of the way for steep times of 50s/40s/50s/60s/70s/90s/120s. I like the shorter steep times as it helps avoid bitterness.

Psyck said

When I steep balled/rolled leaves, then I use gongfu timings like 40, 30, for the initial steeps, to give more time at the start for the leaves to open up, but when I brew full length long leaves, I start with 30, 40…So, just checking, are those recommended steep times specifically for balled tea or is it recommended to do that for all teas?

LuckyMe said

Good question. I checked and it does appear these instructions are for rolled teas. For unrolled tea, the general steeping guide is slightly more tea, 2 tsp for 50 seconds, adding 15 seconds to each subsequent steep. That would make sense since their mass per volume is lower.

Also when I brew rolled teas, I do a quick rinse before the initial steep.

Psyck said

kewl, thanks for the tips.

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Psyck said

Any reason for using a 2/3rd filled 150ml vessel instead of a full 100ml one?

I also do similar steep times when brewing in a 150ml pot, usually 6 steeps starting from about 40 secs and finishing at 2 mins. I’ve never found any bitterness in oolongs, didn’t even know they could get bitter, I thought that happened mainly with greens.

LuckyMe said

It’s the proper water to leaf ratio and prevents burnt fingers. You’re right, roasted oolongs generally don’t suffer from bitterness. I should have specified that I drink mostly green oolongs.

For dark oolongs, I underleaf quite a bit so conserving tea isn’t much of an issue there.

Psyck said

Yeah I’ve never tried green oolongs western style; I tend to prefer light to medium roasted oolongs – which as you say are more tolerant to a variety of brewing methods. I’m still relatively new to these and have only sampled a fairly small variety of them so far though…

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