Matu said

Freshly Pressed Puerh "Calming Down?"

Hey, folks! With the 2016 puerh starting to flow, I had a question about freshly pressed puerh tea. I’ve read on a couple places, notably White2Tea, that freshly pressed puerh takes some time to “calm down” after pressing. I gather that this is not synonymous with the aging of puerh that mellows astringent flavors (maybe I’m wrong already though, and somebody will set me straight!).

So – my questions are: what is the result of this “calming down?” I know for White2Tea’s 2016 Fade, which I got in the monthly club box, Paul said it had a sourness which would go away as the tea calmed down. Is sourness always the hallmark of freshly pressed raw puerh?

Secondly, how long would this calming down period be for most teas? Does it vary based on storage?

Thanks, puerh experts of Steepster!

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Freshly pressed pu has water vapor in the leaves from the steaming stage of production. Generally that takes about 6 months to dissipate entirely, and less time for raw vs ripe. This watery taste is personally the only thing I have noticed on freshly pressed cakes vs mao cha.

Matu said

Ok, thanks!

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AllanK said

I have never really noticed raw teas needing time to calm down. On the other hand ripe teas freshly fermented need some time to adjust and clear a bit. That is why makers of ripe like Menghai Tea Factory let their ripe sit a while before they begin selling them.

Also, I can’t remember if I tasted a sour note to the 2016 Fade?

Matu said

Fair enough, thank you :)

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mrmopar said

I would allow at least 6 months to settle a bit. I even go as far as waiting a month or so after I get my tea in from shipping before I drink it. Sheng , as noted previously will settle quite a bit faster than shou.

Matu said

So you’d allow 6 months for sheng as well? or just shou, and shorter than that for sheng?

mrmopar said

I would allow it for both. The sheng will settle quicker. These are just my parameters it may take less time but I usually get better results with the wait.

Matu said

Fair enough, thanks!

bebop0812 said

So as someone currently storing sheng in bags (because I am buying to drink, not to age) should I let it settle out of the bag (~35% humidity) or keep it in a sealed bag while I wait?

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DongBei said

Would you guys advise waiting 6 months from production or 6 months from when I receive it?

Dr Jim said

6 months from when you receive it would be torture. I can’t always manage just a few days.

mrmopar said

Try it when you buy it. Chunk it away for 6 months and it will change quite a bit.

It’s always changing… just don’t judge it based on when it just arrived, just like you wouldn’t judge the attractiveness of an old flame after they’d been on a plane for 24 hours and have jet lag.

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Calming down… from my perspective is three-fold.

1. Allowing the mao cha to “sweat” (发汗) after processing makes it less green and develop a more rounded and thick taste. Sweating also serves to allow the leaf to dry more. Pressing within a month of tea being processed freshly into mao cha will often lock in those greener tastes and the tea will age more slowly in the first couple of years.

2. After pressing into a cake or brick, the tea should be allowed to “Dry out” (退水气). During pressing the mao cha is weighed and put into a cotton bag and then put over a funnel of steam to soften the leaves enough for pressing. After pressing, the cakes are put in a dry hot room (about 40C) and allowed to dry. Even after they are dry enough to pack into wrappers and tongs there is still a higher than normal water content in the tea. The water content of the bamboo leaf tongs (which are also steamed to make them soft) will also contribute to elevated water content in the tea. Typically 2 to 4 weeks after pressing is enough time for that vapor to dissipate to the point where the tea can safely be sealed in plastic for shipping. If you drink a cake that’s just been pressed a few days ago, up to a month (or was pressed recently and then sealed in plastic for shipping) it has a watery taste (水味) that tends to make the taste of the less pungent and crisp.

3. After being sent in the mail, the tea also needs to acclimate to the new storage condition. The water content on arrival may still be a little too high and might interfere with the overall taste.

Typically it’s easy to wait these periods of time, since after we secured our batches of mao cha we must take 250 grams of each batch and send to a lab for pesticide tests. This testing process takes 2-3 weeks typically.

After pressing, the tea usually sits in the tea factory for awhile until all our batches are done… this typically takes a month, with the tail-end teas having more of a “watery taste” than those pressed first. We list the early pressings first, and for the first month or so we use desiccant packs when we seal and send the cakes to customers. We never once had a cake arrive moldy, but I do think people should allow these freshly arrived cakes a month or more to acclimate to their new home.

Matu said

Thanks for the detailed answer! So if excess water in the leaves is the concern in fresh pressings, should I wait some time before putting relatively freshly pressed cakes into a pumidor?

Also, when are you releasing the rest of your 2016 puerhs? ;)

@Matu I would wait a couple of months and let them dry out before putting them in the pumidor.

We will start listing the remainder on Tuesday or Wednesday!

Matu said

Right on – true with samples too? Like just open the bags and let em sit out for a while? Sorry for the 1,000 questions ;)

And that’s exciting!

Pu-erh samples tend to have no real storage value and are easily overwhelmed by the elements. I like to let them sit open for a day or two before drinking.

Matu said

Ok, thanks again for your expert advice ;)

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