JB said

Kettle temp vs actual steeping temp?

How do you guys usually aim for specific temperatures? Do you aim for a temperature from the kettle and assume temperature loss at the cup/teapot or do you aim to brew at a specific temperature in the vessel?

The temp recommendations on the tea pages, are those temp at kettle or temp in vessel?

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Rasseru said

For me, at least, kettle temp. I know that boiling straight out the kettle into a warmed gaiwan will be closest to 100c. Everything else I try to adjust from there, and occasionally use a thermometer for learning my setup.

I don’t use the thermometer as much as I thought I would though

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AllanK said

If you need different temperature settings get a variable temperature kettle. There are a number of good ones on the market. I use the Cuisinart.

Rasseru said

I think op is referring to the difference between kettle/actual temp & the cooling when it hits a cup, and how that is recorded in reviews.

If my review says 90c it’s the kettle temp, even if it’s 85c when it hits the cup

JB said

I have a zoji water dispenser, it has many temp settings.

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Preheat your vessel is number one. That reduces a lot of error right there.

Vessel heat retention plays some factors too, I found some thin small gaiwans on long steeps will just get too cold fast and not get a full power steep vs something that can hold temperature better.

moot said

Yup. Interestingly, thin small gaiwans actually may do better on ultra-short steeps because they pull less heat out of the water, but their non-heat-keeping tendencies really show up on long steeps.

If you are sufficiently obsessive, you may find yourself, as I do, uh, transferring tea from thinner to thicker gaiwans, or even yixing, over the course of a lot of steeps.

You probably don’t want to be that obsessive.

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