Rasseru said

Fruitier green teas? *and floral

I admit to being a right noob when it comes to greens. Ive drank cheap sencha & dragonwell prior to joining steepster & this spring I had a few more premium fresh chinese greens, mainly thanks to the YS tea club. I wouldnt have tried them otherwise. They were more of a salty umami type.

Today though, I found an old 1yr+ sample of a Xi Hu Long Jing & it was a bit more sweeter, fruitier than any others I have tried before. The fruit/sweet & salt/umami were quite balanced, even leaning towards the fruity side.

Edit* Also floral greens are doing it for me

Are there any that are considered not so umami? As far as my limited knowledge goes sencha has been the sweetest up until this long jing.

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LuckyMe said

In my experience, YS green teas tend to be on the pungent side. If you like sencha, check out the Laoshan teas. They have a similar sweet grassy flavor. Verdant and YS both carry it.

For a fruiter green, try bi luo chun. Though I wouldn’t recommend YS’s. Their imperial grade bi luo chun had a briney taste that I didn’t really care for.

Teavivre’s huang shan mao feng is another good one that’s more floral than umami.

Rasseru said

Every Bi Luo Chun ive ever tried has looked the part as I like whites but not floated my boat taste-wise, do you have any recommendations of vendor?

LuckyMe said

Verdant’s reserve laoshan bi luo chun – it’s pricey but the best one I’ve had. I think they may be out of stock for now though.

I tried a number of other bi luo chun teas this year that just didn’t cut it for me: Teavivre, YS, and Beautiful Taiwan Tea company were all pretty lackluster.

Rasseru said

ok thanks, will keep a look out for the verdant one. Taiwan Tea Crafts seem to have a nice selection that are sold as fragrant as well. Ive been checking through some reviews & (I think you reviewed some?) people have liked

TeaLife.HK said

After the whole fake gushu fiasco from Verdant I’d never give them a dime…

Rasseru said

Yeah i will certainly buy anything from them with a much higher level of mistrust. (well from any vendor with wild claims now)

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TeaLife.HK said

Taiwanese longjing and biluochun are much fruitier than their Chinese counterparts—Taiwanese greens all are, on the whole. Why, I don’t know, but they definitely are on the sweeter and fruitier side of things.

I’ve also found green tea from Hainan and Vietnam to be on the sweeter and fruitier side of things, as long as you’re getting the good stuff! I just threw in some Vietnamese Thai Nguyen green with someone’s order as a surprise. I have over a kilo of assorted high grade Thai Nguyen green teas. They are excellent, but there’s no way I can drink all of that tea in the next year!

Rasseru said

Great info thanks, I will try to hunt out some taiwanese greens. Any vendor recommendation?

TeaLife.HK said

I’ve only ever bought Taiwanese tea in Taipei, so no suggestions for online vendors!

Rasseru said

im checking all my known taiwanese sellers now

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De said

I don’t have anything constructive to add to this conversation except that all I can think of is Ross Gellar screaming “UNAGI!”

You may return to your actual tea discussion now.

Rasseru said

haha must have missed that episode

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Rasseru said

Oh can I add floral to the title as well. Really floral greens are doing it as well

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I can recommend this: https://www.taiwanteacrafts.com/product/taiwan-style-organic-green-tea/?v=7516fd43adaa. I haven’t tried the current batch, but a previous year’s batch was an absolute floral bomb. I can’t recall the taste, but I don’t remember it being grassy or umami, so maybe it was fruity? I’m actually tempted to pick some up.

Rasseru said

I’m eyeing a few of their teas, lots of good sounding ones. I shall email them I think & ask

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Most of the YS greens are assamica variety from Yunnan and not really “typical” Chinese green tea, which again is so different from Japanese green tea as to be almost a different thing altogether.

Biluochun seems to have become a name for the style of leaf, and not a thing to shop for to find a specific taste. The style originated in Jiangsu in the Lake Tai area, so looking for Suzhou biluochun would be a good quest. Similarly, “maofeng” has ceased to be anything but a description of the leaf style, so to see why it became famous you want to look for Huangshan maofeng or a reasonably close imitation. Another example is “maojian” which originally was a Henan tea.

“Longjing” was apparently well on its way to a similar fate, but the Zhejiang government got an appellation control law to make it mean, at a minimum, Longjing cultivar grown in Zhejiang.

If your notion of green tea is based on Japanese tea, you should be prepared to think of China green tea as a different thing, and to pay for the good stuff prices north of $0.30/g. Alas, I have no recommendation for vendors. Though I thought that TeaVivre had some pretty good “Huangshan maofeng” this past spring.

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Ubacat said

Taiwan Tea Crafts Fragrant Teas are definitely really good – especially the Fragrant Jade Jin Xuan White.

As for fruity greens I’ve found Tai Ping Hou Kui to be a fruity green. It runs a bit pricey most places and right now I don’t know a seller that has a really amazing version of this tea. I’ve gotten it from Ebay seller Royal Tea Bay at a good price.

Also want to add that Nan Jing Yu Hua Cha from Grand Tea is an AMAZING green tea. They do describe it as floral. I didn’t pick up floral notes (as they describe the tea having on their website) when I reviewed it but I still loved it.

LuckyMe said

Thanks for the recommendations, more greens to add to my wishlist!

Teavivre’s Hou Kui is the only one I’ve tried. Nice orchid aroma, but pretty light bodied. I’ll have to check out Royal Tea Bay’s version. China life Tea is the only other seller of Hou Kui I know though I haven’t tried theirs yet.

Ubacat said

Actually I think I got it from AliExpress seller Han Xiang Ecological. However they don’t have it in stock right now. It was a fruity apricot tea.

Ubacat said

Here is my review of it:
http://steepster.com/teas/han-xiang-ecological-tea/70485-monkey-chief-peace-spring-premium-tai-ping-hou-kui

Sorry about the mix up . I have teas from both Royal Tea Bay and Han Xiang Ecological.

Rasseru said

Ah, I actually had a look at HXE after your review of this & then promptly forgot about them :)

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andresito said

Coincidentally I decided to drink Hojo’s Jasmine Pearl green tea buds today, and saw your post. I think you’ll enjoy this tea if I read your original post correctly. Hands down the best jasmine pearl tea I’ve tried, and the only one I enjoy. If you place an order, pick up some of his Taiping Houkui, as someone mentioned Taiping Houkui has an orchid flavor/aroma to it, and Hojo’s is top notch, I also highly recommend.

Rasseru said

Weirdly coincidentally I got some jasmine tea the other day – my first taste of Jasmine in probably nearly 10 years. I dont think I like it, made me feel a bit nauseous. This might have been memories of drinking it when younger, I dont know. I bought a few different types

andresito said

same here, jasmine green tea always made me nauseous too so I made sure to drink it following a meal this time. glad I’m not the only one who has become nauseous from it

LuckyMe said

I find myself preferring jasmine scented silver needles and jin xuan to the green tea versions. Nothing wrong with jasmine green tea, it’s just that white tea complements jasmine so much more nicely.

Rasseru said

I have the various what-cha offerings. I have tried the strongest one I think, (phoenix balls?). One of the others has actual flowers in rather than scented & might be more up my street, also there is a silver needle version.

I am going to brew fast, but it seems to be one of those aromas that really hits you hard in the head?

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