pu-erh of the day. Sheng or Shou

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Sammerz314 said

Starting the day off with a pleasant 2009 EoT Wuliang Wild Puerh. 6 grams to ~140 ml of water (I prefer my tea on the weaker side) brings out wonderful notes of honey. This is one of those teas that make you reconsider what a “good” puerh really is.

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sansnipple said

2011 Xiaguan FT Baoyan Jincha, Super seductive smell like mint and sweet smoke and something, I’d keep this thing around just to sniff, do they make this in incense form? The actual brewed tea is much lighter and mellower than I was expecting though (but still tasty), I was expecting something dark and orange and heavy, maybe i just need to use a lot more leaves.

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Javan said

This morning I pulled out a sheng pu-erh I’ve been meaning to try. It is a 2003 Meng Song “Dai Tribe” raw bamboo pu-erh. Described here: http://www.yunnansourcing.us/store/product.php?id_product=175 it is a fascinating slightly smoky, orchid aroma tea with a pleasant slightly fruity flavor that is quite “pure”. I’ve wanted to try it since reading about the process of its making, and I’m not disappointed. Very tightly packed, it has the taste of sheng but moving toward an aged quality that I like. Thumbs up from me. (6.5 grams in a yixing teapot, rinsed, steeped three times and combined.)

Peter said

Interesting production process and the tasting sounds good. I’ve put it in my cart.

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Peter said

Tasting a sheng, 2013, from Fengqing. I love that musky taste. In the shop, they said that it is Mao Cha or ‘rough’ tea. Is it only with Pu Erh that this term is used?

Peter said

Is it a recent phenomena, that we can drink this? Or is it just a name?

mrmopar said

By all means drink it! this is the form of Pu Erh before it is pressed into a cake or brick. Maocha is really loose Pu Erh tea. just like you would buy loose tea. it is basically the same.

Peter said

Thanks. I sure did. I was more thinking in terms of availability. As you say, basically the same, loose pu erh and maocha, but is there a difference? Or just marketing?

mrmopar said

I think just marketing. sellers purchase maocha from producers to process Pu Erh. I think availability may be low but I think maocha is the product that starts the process. It is dried and rolled and really the first step in making Pu erh. You basically have a very lightly processed tea. I would bet it is good and with some aging even better!

Peter said

Thanks, that clears it up some.
For the moment, I only have 100gr, so far the aging part :)
It’s very good and it definitely makes me want to taste more pu erh of the Feng Qing region.

mrmopar said

I would put 25 grams away and see how it is in a few years.

Peter said

My strategy for the moment is, buying that much tea, that there have to be some leftovers in a few years.

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sansnipple said

First tastes of Yunnan Sourcing 2012 Wuliang cake, so far its just sort of light and floral and grassy. I just got it and the cake has no scent at all leading me to believe that It’s currently dormant (probably from the cold dry weather) and I should give it a month or 2 before trying it again. The last young YS cake i had also arrived super young and green tasting and it opened up and massively deepened very rapidly.

tperez said

I have that one, and it seems to change pretty dramatically with the weather. Sometimes it brews up really nice and flavorful, other times its sort of bland and dull. I guess it’s a bit finicky :P

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tperez said

Brewed up some 2012 MGH 1106 from Puerh Shop for the first time in a while. It’s got that clean, pure Lincang taste, but it’s much more aggressive than the others I’ve tried. Strong and bitter with a good qi.

I’m feeling more than a bit tea drunk, and enjoying a lazy Sunday afternoon with fresh strings on my guitar. Doesn’t get much better than that

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Sammerz314 said

Enjoying a wonderful 1996 CNNP Sheng. I believe this tea was stored in slightly wetter conditions as it exhibits beautiful notes of earthiness and woodiness. Excellent tea which is available at the Essence of Tea.

Peter said

Great choice!

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Peter said

We’ll slide down the surface of things…shu time. Comparing a 2002 Kunming brick, a 2005 Zhenkang Gu Cha disc and a 2005 nest of Menghai.

Javan said

Sounds good – I’d love to hear your thoughts on the comparison.

Peter said

Just added yesterday’s 2012 Shue Yu Cha Xiang to the test. So far, the 2002 Kunming, 7581, brick impresses me most, it has a very natural and pure taste, not the typical cooked ‘brown’ flavour. Apparently, the 7581 tea recipe has some raw pu erh mixed to the formula. No wonder, I like it that much.

Peter said

The 2005 Zhenkang Gu Cha has a strong opium-like smell and a very mineral taste. Some minerals give off a distinctive odor in certain conditions, that’s for sure.

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2006 CNNP Yellow Label (shu).
I tried brewing this early Qing Dynasty style with salt and milk (almond milk for me!). It was not very palatable. The second infusion was drunk straight.
I’ll definitely be ending the day with my beloved Aged Qizi (shu) from Yezi Tea. It seems to be my go-to pu-erh ever since being introduced to it. :)

Peter said

Never tried it Qing style, and I’m not sure if I ever will. Nice collection you have.

mrmopar said

Agreed with Peter, nice collection. I saw you are a “shu pu” person too! Yay!! welcome to the puerh discussion please share with us!

Thank you both!

Peter - I understand that! Early Qing style is not very good… I’m assuming that it’s a very acquired taste!

mrmopar - I will definitely keep sharing! I’m trying to grow my pu-erh collection and sip down my inferior teas. :)

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mrmopar said

Having a 2006 Menghai “Mount Elephant” sheng tonight. I have been working this one for three days now. It is a truly amazing tea. The strength of this one is amazing. It comes across with a mineral, citrus and honey notes. At times it has hits of camphor and “saltiness” that stays on the tip of the tongue. You can feel this one way down after drinking. I wish I had made some notes of the earlier steeping s. I plan to brew this one till it has nothing left as I think it will continue to yield more. This is probably the oldest sheng I have had and I can understand why people talk about aged sheng. Pure unadulterated Menghai at its best before the commercialization of it the following year. I think a whole beeng of this is on the shopping list.

Don’t you just love a nice sheng that has a great mouth feel and taste…and keeps delivering cup after cup!? Sounds very nice. I will need to try and locate this one. Thanks for the insight and sharing your thoughts.

mrmopar said

I got it from Royal Puer. It was a 50 gram sample and I wish I had bought more. Really nice tea.

mrmopar said

Day number four. It is much weaker now but still has some taste and lots of color in the cup. I just pulled the trigger to get one of these cakes.

mrmopar said

Just found this on Dragon teahouse’s web site.

looseTman said

“At times it has hits of camphor and “saltiness” that stays on the tip of the tongue.”
Could you elaborate further on the “saltiness”? Is it a salt-like flavor or do you think there maybe sodium in this sheng? Thanks!

mrmopar said

loosetman I guess it was like the little buzz on the tip of the tongue that some sheng gives and then comes through with a second note of almost like a thin salty clear soup broth. Really hard to describe as it may have been the tea drawing my salivary gland to overdrive. I would not say “sodium” but probably the overdrive of the glands.

looseTman said

mrmopar, “a thin salty clear soup broth” – Sounds quite different compared with the full-bodied unflavored Orthodox black teas I’ve tasted. Is this characteristic more likely to be found in sheng as opposed to shou? Or, is this a trait associated with the Menghai factory? Thanks!

mrmopar said

I think more associated with sheng in notes of the brothy and saltiness. I don’t think I have had any shou that gives me that sensation.

looseTman said

A tea that’s described as a soup or broth is not something I’ve yet experienced. Is this a highly valued characteristic in sheng? Are we taking Campbell’s, Progresso, or home-made? ;-)

mrmopar said

Homemade for sure.

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