pu-erh of the day. Sheng or Shou

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looseTman said
MzPriss said

I got some yesterday, but now I’m wondering if I got enough

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JC said

2012 Autumn Mengku Ba Nuo Shan Raw from ChaWangShop. A very nice mellow and smooth body with gentle floral and fruity notes. I enjoyed this one all day today with only minor astringency at the end.

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2005 lao tongzhi.

Not a whole lot of flavour in the mouth, but whatever there is is a very mildly sweet, potato like flavour, with the beginnings of some aged taste. It’s really quite rough, and it seems to be one of those shengs that makes my stomach a bit queesy if I drink too fast.

The aftertaste is rather nice, and goes a long way in redeeming this tea.

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AllanK said

Today I drank a different ripe puerh, a tangerine puerh, the 2009 Aged Chenpi Ripened Tangerine Puerh. I brewed it with somoe of the smoky tangerine skin and may have used a bit too much of the skin. It was very smoky in the first infusion, too smoky. It quickly dissipated, leaving a nice flavor behind. Tangerine Puerh is not something I want to drink everyday but this one was good.

SarsyPie said

I think I recall mine tasting kind of dirty, so I am going to try it again, but add some rinses. Unfortunately, that will probably get rid of the citrus flavor also

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Rie T. said

2008 Bulang Shou Imperial Grade from Crimson Lotus Tea. :D
Rich and sweet, but smooth without the tarry, smoky, or overly earthy traits of some shou puerh. The hint of earthy bitterness here makes the profile more appealing to me; while I like smooth/sweet shou they can sometimes be a little too “safe” and predictable. This one is nice!

Still doing flash steeps on the 6th infusion, which is making me very happy and awake while I do some late-night (err, early morning) reorganization of my tea cabinet.

Yang-chu said

Sounds quite interesting.

Nice writeup Rie! Thanks. :-) You picked up on the Bulang bitterness that comes through in that shou. It is appealing to me too.

mrmopar said

Welcome Rie! Glad to have your input. Crimson, I am on your site now. Please label as “samples”…..LOL!

Rie T. said

Thanks! I’m definitely elbows deep into puer exploration these days, so this thread is awesome. :D

Glen, definitely enjoying my selection of samples, thanks so much for the guidance so far.

I’ll see what I can do mrmopar. :-D
Thanks Rie! _

mrmopar said

; )

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MzPriss said

I have a question. I recently received a 357 gram cake of older sheng 2002) to split with a friend. I put it on my scale and it weighed 340 grams. Is this normal? I mean I can understand that over time as it ages it might lose moisture and I assume it’s normal, but I wanted to ask. Thanks in advance pu-heads.

Javan said

I’ve seen this weight loss on older cakes advertised on some sites. You are the first person I’ve heard about it from. My guess is as yours – normal, but I will defer to more experienced folks for a more definitive answer.

MzPriss said

I don’t usually weigh my cakes, but since I was splitting it with someone and it was EXPENSIVE, I wanted to be sure I got it split equally. To make sure it wasn’t my scale I weighed a 2014 cake I have that says 250 grams and it was exactly 250 grams. I assume it’s normal and it makes sense that cakes would lose moisture as they age (if they weren’t stored in a more wet environment) and I actually prefer dry stored cakes, but I wanted to ask about everyone else’s experience.

The angel’s share, haha!

I’ve never actually measured a bing myself, and always just assumed they weigh what the wrapper says. In any case, it has never been that far off that I’ve noticed!

It seems reasonable, though. Before pressing, maocha has to be made supple and loose through steaming. A cake will loose a lot of moisture, and thus weight.

Now I assume maocha is weighed and sorted in to bing sized quantities prior to steaming, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the weight of the leaf changed somewhat throughout the whole process, and producers have to estimate a bit.

During further aging, it’s moisture content may also change from the day it was pressed, and bits may crumble a bit during the handling.

In it’s 12 years your cake may have moved across quite a few shelves!

I’m hoping someone who has actually been to tea factories drops by and can shed some light on this.

It can lose a lot of moisture over the years depending on storage. When that cake was pressed they weighed the maocha too 357grams. Then they steamed it and compressed it. After that cakes can fluctuate ~10% in either direction. I always worry that people will think we’re scamming them, so I break up the cakes that are underweight for samples, and keep the overweight cakes to sell.

SarsyPie said

The replies are helpful. Thank you all!

mrmopar said

Agreed, the cakes will lose weight as they age. For the most part they are steamed to soften before pressing so evaporation would probably have them lose some weight. BezoomnyChaiVeck you hit the “nail” on the head. Angels share. One day I hope to be one of them getting that share.

I liked the Angel’s Share concept too!

MzPriss said

I’ve only seen the “angel’s share” concept applied to whiskey before, but it works here too.

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Rich select said

So I started my day with the 2011 Star of Menghai. I managed to get samples from a fellow Steepsterite of this product for each of the years 2009 through 2013. This tea is supposed to be one of the higher quality shus from Dayi. I loved the 2009 tea, it was superb. But now quite expensive. So I was hoping the later versions were as good so I could buy some and age it.

I found the 2011 version not nearly as good. It was deep, but composty and a little fishy. Was this difference due to it being younger or because 2011 was not as good a year’s cake? I will try the other versions and let you know what I think based on how those taste. Should be an interesting experiment.

mrmopar said

Give it another year and it will evolve I am pretty sure. I try to give these about 4 years to age. Hopefully in another year we will be around to go another whirl on this. I agree the 2009 is really good now.

Rich select said

Will try the 2013 tomorrow to see how that stacks up! Then I will go backwards. Looks like I have 2007 as well.

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Rich select said

Next up today, I dug into my drawer at work for some afternoon energy. I spotted a sample of the 2012 Qiu Yun from Yunnan Sourcing. I had tried this a few weeks ago and forgot what I thought of it. I figured if I had really liked it I would have ordered a cake last week when I did a YS order.

Yum, it was really good. Almost a perfect young sheng. Floral, a little sweet, nice huigan, a little bitterness, and very easy to drink. So I think, yeah, I must order a cake. I go to the YS site and find it – wow, $17? A steal! Only it’s sold out. Damn! That’s why I never ordered it. Lucky you’s who own this.

Yang-chu said

I’ve been a bit curious about the “yun” teas. Haven’t tried any yet.

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AllanK said

I drank a downright unusual puerh tea tonight, the 2007 Witches Brew Sheng Puerh from The Pleasures of Tea. It is loose raw puerh but it is in the form of long single leaves with a fair amount of stems. It was actually pretty good although not the very best. It had an aged flavor in the first steep that quickly dissipated after the second steep. After that it was pretty smooth.

AllanK said
SarsyPie said

This is just so cool!

Javan said

Looks like the end of a witch’s broomstick. Cool.

That is very odd, I thought I had seen everything.

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I got an assortment of pu’erh in the post on Tuesday. That’ll be fun to go through.

Javan said

What did you get, Lariel?

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