pu-erh of the day. Sheng or Shou

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Tealizzy said

I just drank the JalamTeas September offering, Ba Ka Ngoi. It was really good. A very powerful Shou, that tasted like cinnamon sugar in the later steepings. Yum! I’m very happy to have subscribed! Check out my recent tasting note for more notes on this tea. :)

Javan said

I’m also enjoying this tea today. Pleasant tea with a smoothness I’m liking, which to my taste still has a vegetal hint underneath the fermentation which I like.

Tealizzy said

Nice! Ya, I had a hard time deciding whether to have another session with it today or have something else. It was good! I decided on a sheng today, though.

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I’m sipping on “Guevara” Shu, from Life in Teacup.This is a 20G sample that is offered for $1 on the Life in Teacup website, but can only be gotten if you place an order.
There is a pic of Guevara on the wrapper, which is kind of cool, & makes the tea appealing, at least to some of us.
http://www.lifeinteacup.com/dollar-sample

This is a very clean tasting tea. No off-tastes, no musty odors. The dry leaf smells of brown sugar & cream. The early steeps were sweet & creamy, then there were a few rounds that were ok, but not exciting or exceptional.
Then the minty-ness began.
A lot of puerh teas take on a camphor note, or maybe eucalyptus. This is straight out mint, at least to my taste. Minty fresh. And it feels really good, opening my head & lungs. I’m on maybe the 8th round? I tend to lose track pretty quickly, but the energy of it is nice, & I’m still drinking it, just to see if any unexpected surprises come up in the final steeps. Right now it’s kind of a sweet malty water with a hint of milk chocolate…

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I’ve been brewing shou puerh in Jianshui clay teapots ever since my wife and I visited the tow of Jianshui early this year. However I had not used them for sheng puerh. I had heard conflicting reports over whether the clay was suited for sheng puerh.

We got a new shipment of Jianshui teapots in just in time for the NW Tea Festival in Seattle this weekend. There was one that caught my eye that I convinced my wife we should keep for ourself for sheng puerh testing. :-D I started with a wet stored 2005 Changtai sheng puerh that I am very familiar with brewing in a gaiwan. I was really surprised. The tea is already a sweet tea, but was just that much sweeter. It also seemed to take off what little edge was left to the tea.

I was pretty surprised actually. So I tried a much younger sheng puerh. A 2013 tuo cha for Xiaguan. Something with a little bite to it. Xiaguan has that smoky edge that some people find off putting. Brewed in this Jianshui teapot it was like candy. It was so smooth and the aroma still held the hint of bitterness, astringency, and smokiness, but the clay muted all those overtones.

Don’t get me wrong, sheng puerh is certainly about those overtones. I appreciate them, and some people drink sheng puerh just for that experience. It’s not for everyone though, and it turns some people off. For those people brewing sheng puerh in a Jianshui teapot might be a real solution. I was genuinely surprised.

For the younger sheng I have that has that rough edge I’ll probably be brewing them in Jianshui teapots. For the middle aged stuff I’ll probably stick with a gaiwan. They’re starting to get smooth on their own and can use what little edge is left as a contrast.

All in all some fun experimentation the last few days. :-)

I did not even realize there was going to be a festival in Seattle this weekend until just now.

WAT! :-) You must go. Bring all your friends. It’s gonna be great!

All my tea friends are on Steepster and not really local…

apt said

sounds like you are a bit hyped Glen

@Starfevre Then you can come and make some new local tea friends!
@apt Yes! Combination of just drinking a lot of young sheng and planning for this event for many, many months! Still so much to do…

mrmopar said

Wished I lived in Seattle……

jschergen said

We’ll be there!

I can relate, Mopar. It seems there’s a lot of tea activity around there!

TwoDog2 said

Good luck at the NW Tea fest!

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mrmopar said

having a 2005 Six Famous Tea mountains 2nd grade sheng.
I received this from a great tea friend to try. I have always been intrigued by this companies productions from the “heyday” of the good puerh production. I used 10 grams in the Gaiwan for this one. Gave a 5 second rinse to start things out. I did a 5 second brew 3 times and put it all in the cup ( my gaiwan is about 3 oz. ).
It brewed up a pretty nice aged color to it, a darker hue of yellow. Almost a light bronze to it. It has a bit of smoke in the brew. It gives some notes of bitter and sweet mixed.The leaf seems to be a mix of chopped with some whole in there if you dig around a bit. Aroma does have some touch of floral to it. later steeps have less smoke and color to them.

Flavors: Bitter, Floral, Smoke, Sweet

DigniTea said

The 2005 6FTM single origin teas (e.g., Bangwei, Jinggu, Mengsong, Nannuo, Youle) are worth drinking; less sure about their blended mixed origin cakes – biq leaf quality difference.

mrmopar said

Agreed on single origin. I have a couple of this type albeit another producer that I like a lot.

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Sipping on some teasource 1995 sheng puerh this afternoon.
Used my trusty gaiwian.

I should start off by saying this is the oldest puerh I have had the chance to try.
Found It very interesting to say the least.

Didn’t get a chance to write many tasting notes but the first steeping after a quick rinse (loose leaf material) was absolutely fantastic in all aspects.

The dry leaves were very large. The dry leaves smelt leathery at first but as I keep going back for more whiffs I noticed a licorice, camphor note.

Firstly I noticed hints of a very interesting woody, smokey, fruit of some sort.
I then noticed a honey sweet after taste on the first 5-10 infusions.
It provided a nice a sedative yet uplifting qi.
I went pretty heavy on the leaves and had a golden amber colored infusion until about 20 infusions.
Latter infusions (10+) had a very woody smokey flavor was really smooth tho with no astringency.

It is the most complex layered sheng I’ve had.
Good thing I grabbed 4 ounces! (Heard supply of that was running low)
Cost 31 odd dollars.

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mrmopar said

Having a 2012 “Shen Gu You” from the Tea Urchin tonight.
Breaking this one out after the "Chairman"was a bit indecisive tonight. I received this courtesy of a tea friend to try. I read the vendors note and am fairly excited to try this one.
The sample I was sent had 7 grams so I brought out the Gaiwan on this one. I am trying to season a new Yixing and I was afraid it would soak up a lot of this teas character. The dry leaf has a pleasant fruity and flowery aroma to it. I gave it a quick rinse and then steeped it. a 5 second or so steep done 3 times and into a 10 oz. mug. This tea pits up a sharpness quality to it. A good mix of the bitter and sweet and a nice little tingle to it. To be a young sheng it really doesn’t carry the astringent quality of many young teas but it has a good strength to it. The sharpness from earlier in the note is how quick those notes arrive in the cup. Some teas take a while to “put it on you”, but this is a straight to the point one.
I am enjoying this pretty well but only one cup tonight as the day starts early tomorrow and I don’t want this to interfere with me counting sheep tonight.
Getting a little brown sugar and/or caramel notes as it cools a bit.

Flavors: Bitter, Floral, Fruity, Sweet, Caramel

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This afternoon I sipped on a sample of 2005 Menghai Yellow Label ripe. I got a sample with my Tribute Tea order. Looking in the envelope, I found 2 dense chunks, each about 7.5 grams, looking like chunks of dark chocolate. I used one of them.
It’s one of those woodsy, aged forest floor kind of teas, kind of musty, with a taste of cedar, tobacco, peat, & leather, and a little smoke. It has a strong kind of savory & peppery quality, with a sweet after-taste, & it tickles my sinuses!

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DigniTea said

Recently I’ve been picking up single-origin sheng cakes from Cha Wang Shop – looking for those with a few years of age on them at lower prices (compared to the high prices for more popular factory productions with a little age). Today I broke into another one of these shengs – the 2003 Jinuoshan Youle. This is A fruity sheng made entirely from You Le Mountain tea leaves; an autumn picking; tightly compressed; many whole leaves and buds throughout. The material used yields a clear golden yellow tea soup with a spicy scent. The first infusions offer a fruity flavored sip which carries more of a tart sweetness. Later cups are more mellow and fruity – berries and peaches. The aftertaste is long and sweet. I found this to be a nice tea to enjoy and I have hopes to soon try one of the Jinuo Shan shengs made with You Le material gathered during the spring months.

jschergen said

Nice! I haven’t tried that one.

It seems to me there’s a nice little sweet spot for pu’erh pricing. Somewhere in that 5-10 year mark where the cakes are only marginally higher-priced than young stuff. Chawang seems like a great place to pick those sorts of cakes!

DigniTea said

I completely agree with your thoughts about the 5-10 year old cakes from Chawang and that is why I have targeted them. Every time I go looking through their inventory I find something I’d consider buying because of the potential for very good quality/price ratio. As for this particular cake (I may have picked up the last one), I would say it is decent enough for everyday drinking but I think the other Jinuoshan cakes hold more promise because they use Spring material. Also I do not mean to suggest that it is my favorite YouLe either but I am happy to drink it. I think I ended up infusing it 9-10 times.

mrmopar said

I for one trust your judgement and notes. I think we have a similar like/dislike profile. I think I may have to shop there pretty soon.

apt said

maybe a split order?

mrmopar said

You never know. I just wish their shipping prices were stated a bit more clearly.

I haven’t tried anything from Cha Wang yet…I haven’t bought any tea for awhile either. Might be time to do some loitering… ;)

mrmopar said

Roughage likes them a lot.

apt said

shipping costs range from expensive to really expensive

boychik said

I thought of adding a few samples(3-4) but ship was like $17. So I had to stop :(

I’d be up with being part of a shared order

jschergen said

The shipping ends up being quite a bit more expensive than YS. Part of it is because they don’t offer the super slow ground shipping that YS does. I wonder if you could contact them and see if they’d be OK with sending stuff under that method for less money.

jschergen said

I’ll also add. The one aged oolong (1999 TGY) I tried from them was surprisingly good. Fit the profile of a clean, well-aged one. Highly recommend it for anyone interested in that tea genre and placing an order already.

DigniTea said

Since I like to minimize time in plastic, I’ve been using EMS small packet and receive the items in about 10 days door to door. This method has a limit of 2000g and he reserves 500g for packing materials (always packed very well). This means that I carefully choose items so that my order stays under 1500g. Worth the expense to me. I’ve been paying $20-$25 which seems worth it when you are ordering multiple cakes but certainly not worth it for a small order.

apt said

They also have really nice looking teaware and Hei Cha (might pick up some Liu Bao)

I wish I had a puer club in St. Louis, or even a tea group to get together with to place orders

Yang-chu said

The folks at Chagwang are totally righteous. It costs $20/k to ship EMS from China. If you talk to them, I’m sure they’d be open to sending on the slow boat, which is considerably cheaper.
TeaUrchin flat-rates their shipping, which means the more you purchase the cheaper the shipping costs become. Chawang is simply shipping by what EMS charges them.

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2008 Xiaguan “NAN ZHAO YU”

Before this tea I thought I could only appreciate younger, more boldly flavored fruity or floral sheng, but man, this one was incredible!

I drank on the leaves all day, towards the end just leaving them in my cup to continue to steep as I drink…

The first few steeps were a bit woody, but not in a bad way at all. There was some gentle smokiness too. No bitterness or astringency that I could find. Wow, as this one began to open up as the steeps progressed and it sweetened, it was magical! I had a rough afternoon at work and the energy from this really helped me power through. Clarity in a cup!

Tealizzy said

Sounds great!!

Sounds like my kind of cup!

Yang-chu said

That does sound nice.

mrmopar said

I think this is one of those that will age nicely.

Yang-chu said

Did yours come in the jazzy box?

mrmopar said

Mine didn’t. I ordered it from Jas-eTea and it just came as a wrapped cake.

Yang-chu said

I see they’re selling Du-pin on that site. I’ve been kinda interested in that one. “Du-pin” homophone for illicit drugs. I’ve seen the Nan-zhao Yu Bing offered in a snazzy octagonal box, very ba-gua. ;-)

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SarsyPie said

I’m drinking a 2009 Feng Shan. No idea what company or factory made it, and I’ve given up on trying to figure it out!

It’s pretty darn good, and it definitely gives a good kick in the pants at the end of each sip!

Javan said

Is this the tea of which you speak, or is it another? http://wildandbare.com/our-teas/2009-feng-shan-puerh-tea-phoenix-mountain/

SarsyPie said

Yep, that’s the one!

Just perused their site…but I’m really trying to be a good girl…sigh…

AllanK said

Sarsonator. try posting a picture on Teachat with a request to translate, I learned the name and tea factory of a mystery tea that way. Lots of people on Teachat who read Chinese. At least if the cake has writing on it that might work.

Yang-chu said

The layout of the site is exquisite, not so sure about their prices.

tperez said

Hmm, that might be their own brand? They have two other cakes with the same wrapper that also just list the name of the mountain

Javan said

Here is a photo of the back of the cake’s wrapper with more writing. Those who can read it may be able to give us more information. http://wildandbare.com/images/dh_2010_06_04_0443.jpg

Yang-chu said

This is a HK company, at least as far as the packaging goes, which then accounts for the prices, something akin to the MGH product from the pu’er shop in terms of Feng Shan (Phoenix Mt) is a brand, not a reference to a particular Yunnan locale or maker.

Cwyn said

I can see Lincang on the back of the wrapper.

Does wildandbare also sell hot young guys?

SarsyPie said

I may try the tea chat idea. Thanks, A!

That pic looks accurate, Javan. I have another angle of the same thing, and a pic of the paper that was inside also.

SarsyPie said

Oh and Terri.. I don’t want to get into a smear fest, but I wouldn’t buy from them ever again. The cakes I received were not the cakes I ordered.

bummer!

SarsyPie said

Totally. Hence the mystery!

Yang-chu said

Yeah, I got a magnified view. Linxiangqu (region), Linbo Mengku Dayezhong Shengtai Chachang.

SarsyPie said

Oh I totally missed your reply, Yang-chu. Sorry about that. So that is a region and a factory? Thanks for your assistance. It’s kind of you to help me!

Yang-chu said

Linbo Mengku… is the name of the factory (chachang).
It’s a bit of a task to keep up will all the communications in this stream. No need to apologize.
A perfunctory look didn’t turnip much info even on puercn.com
It seems that they may have something to do with this company… “Lockcha” (Happy Tea) http://www.lockcha.com/teahouse/?lang=eng, which you’ll no doubt want to visit next time in HK. The grub looks ridiculous and they “speak” English.
Anyway, the stuff that I did find is before venturing with HK, which means the stuff might be a real good find, but since the folks on puercn.com haven’t any data, I’ll have to sit them out for at least two more orders. I’ve got my eyes on Tian Hong. Still, if anyone has a crazy urge to send some Yulin this way or wants to go in on some, then hit me up. Some has suggested they’re really just about the mkting.

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