High end tea suggestions!

I have currently been using Mariages Freres, Laduree, Adagio, etc. What are your favorite brands I am missing? How is David’s tea in comparison or Butiki? Or Palais Des Thes or Lupicia? Thanks!

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Sil select said

i think it depends largely on what you mean by high end tea. Under my definition, adagio would never make the cut :)

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Haha! Ok! I misspoke! Scratch adagio! Just lead me to some fun brands that are amazing! I love flavored teas also!

Sil select said

haha no no just helps to understand what you mean by high end teas :) Nothing wrong with adagio, just not high quality in my head, which is where i go when someone says high end heh.

butiki teas>david’s tea imo
If you have access to mariage freres. damman freres, the o dor those are really nice “french teas” Nina’s paris has some good flavoured teas as well.

Lupicia does a nice job as well, and palais des thes has also produced from really tasty teas that i’ve enjoyed. If you’re just getting started, i’d go with small samples from a bunch of companies until you find things that you really like.

Dustin said

Nina’s is pretty good, I’ll second that! And you can buy them on Amazon now. The O Dor was a little more delicate flavor wise, but had some really interesting flavor combos.

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Dustin said

I find most David’s teas to be a little disappointing and the flavors a little weak, but I have found a few that I like. I have tried a few Butiki teas and really liked most of them. Even the one I wasn’t fond of was interesting and well balanced. I have 5 Palias teas that are all really nice, flavorful and smooth, but I was able to go into a store and smell them before choosing. Several that had interesting descriptions didn’t pass the sniff test, so I’m guessing I’d have been disappointed if I had ordered online based on the description. I have enjoyed the Lupicia teas I have had too. They have interesting, unusual and fun flavors like sweet potato pie and lychee. I tend to favor dessert teas, so my opinion on what is good may differ from your preferences.

Sil select said

Palias teas? ooh they’re new to me heh..

Dustin said

Oh yes! They are pretty good. I was being lazy and not spelling the whole name out, partly because I can never remember the spelling!
http://steepster.com/companies/le-palais-des-thes

Sil select said

haha you wrote Palias, and my brain was too silly to realise you meant PDT (palais). I second that, they have been good in my limited experience :)

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I ordered 5 Mariages Freres teas on Black Friday- they had free shipping if you spent 75.00 or more. They are offering that again today. Market place foods.
Was thinking about just getting the refill bags of their teas so I can try more flavors! What do you think? Should I bite the bullet and just the tins?

Sil select said

i don’t buy tins if i don’t have to – generally the price difference isn’t worth it since you can get empty tins from other places for a couple bucks. If the price difference is such that it’s only 2-3 $ more then sure…but i’ve found usually it’s 5-15 when getting tins. I’d rather have the tea than the tin :)

Dustin said

So you are thinking of buying another $75 worth of Mariage? That is a lot of one company unless you know that you love them. Their prices seem a bit steeper than other French companies I have tried. What is the opposite of biting the bullet? Maybe do that. There are so many other wonderful companies to try! ;)

Sil select said

yeah, i’d agree with dustin on that one. Butiki does free shipping internationally if you spend over 75… you could also look at just getting small quantities from other companies. Verdant is going sampler packs these days for example.

75$ will get you a lot of tea to try and a number of companies offer free shipping at lower thresholds. If you’re just getting started i’d try small quanties while you figure out what you like. I know when i first started i’d buy 2oz of things…and then i learned that .5oz (or less) was the way to go so i wouldn’t be stuck with a lot of tea i didn’t like.

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Yes. It’s like 13 bucks for the refills and like 22 bucks for the tins. Huge difference! I think I will just get the refills. I am getting some as gifts and splitting the rest w my mom. Usually their shipping is free with 250.00 or more and I think this is the only place in the states to purchase their tea. I just will have a big stash for the year!

There are several places that sell Mariage Frères tea. Dean and Deluca and Porte Rouge sell it online. Those are the two places that I have ordered tea from before, aside from getting it from Paris. Porte Rouge’s website is currently down, but they sent me the list of the Mariage Frères teas that they currently have.

Rose D’Himalaya, Rouge Sahara, Rouge Provence, Paris Breakfast, Earl Grey Provence, Paris Ginza - (all newer blends)
(classics) - Rouge Bourbon, Marco Polo Rouge, Nil Rouge, French Breakfast, Russian Breakfast, American Breakfast, English Breakfast, Earl Grey French Blue, Earl Grey Imperial, Chandernagor, Black Orchid, Vert Provence, Jasmin Mandarin, Bolero, Marco Polo, Montagne D’Or, Wedding Imperial, Pleine Lune, Montagne de Jade.

I’m not sure of your location, but I know that here in New York there are many supermarkets that sell Mariage Frères. You wouldn’t have to worry about shipping if you can find a place nearby that sells it, but it might take a bit of detective work.

Dustin said

What site are you buying it from and what area of the states are you in? I have found them in stores before. You may be able to contact their customer service and see what locations near you retail their teas. That could save you on shipping if there is something within a reasonable distance.

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You all are such fun! It’s nice to talk to people who know their teas!! I will try the brands you all suggested! I ordered some from Zhi on Black Friday and that was a disappointment.

Dustin said

Zhi is actually just a short walk from my house! I have mixed feelings about them. They are SUPER sweet and helpful but not pushy when I go in and I love having them in my neighborhood, but I’m not super into their teas. I found a few blends that I like, but I have learned to buy their sample packs before committing to larger sizes since they are so hit or miss for me.

Sil select said

Dustin – any recommendations for the few from zhi you did enjoy?

Dustin said

They have some tasty chais. Kashmiri Chai (a green), Coconut Chai and Cacao Chai were all nice but you better like cardamon because who ever blends their teas sure does! The Ambrosia white and Violet Femme black were winners for me too. They had a cherry sencha that was okay, but not as bold as I usually like my flavored teas to be.

Sil select said

Nice, thanks for the heads up…have to add them to my list. I don’t mind cardamon but i’ll consider myself warned heh

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inguna said

For flavored teas I would recommend Butiki. For example: Champagne & Rose Cream and yes it tastes as amazing as it sounds.
From Adagio I would recommend the Maters Series. My personal favorites include: Golden Curls, Anhui Keemun, Fujian Jasmine Pearl and Wuyi Da Hong Pao. Also I just redesigned the whole look for the Maters Series (the production usually takes about 6 months) and I have to say that the new tins for the Masters Series will be very cool.

Thank u so much!! Placed an order w butiki and ordered a larger amount of the champagne and rose thanks to your suggestion. Sounds like my cup of tea!

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Whew. You all talked me down from ordering more MF. OK….. Does butiki or PDT offer specials ever? Wonder if I should order now, or wait for. Special of some variety!! Thank you so much!!

Dustin said

Butiki usually has a few teas on sale at any given time. She just did a BF sale that was spend $40 get $20 in tea free. Not sure what other sales she does throughout the year. I have no clue about PDT. There were no sales when I visited their store.

Another thing lots of folks here do to try new teas and diversify their stash is swap with others. There are a few swapping threads that you can post what you are willing to trade and what you are looking for. Adding teas to your Steepster cupboard gives people an idea of what you have (I only put teas on it that I’m willing to trade) and adding teas you would like to try to your shopping list gives people an idea of what you would want in a trade. It is a fun way to try new teas and interact with other Steepter folk if you aren’t put off by drinking tea sent from strangers over the internet. :)

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Thank you so much!

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ifjuly said

Golden Moon has some mindblowingly wonderful teas, and they are affordable to try as samples (woe to you once you get hooked though, ha). Honey Orchid is one of the best premium black teas I’ve ever tried; I love Sinharaja despite generally disliking Ceylon, it’s just that good a specimen; they make my favorite Irish Breakfast blend of all; their Coconut Pouchong is wonderful and less creamy, more a fresh coconut flavor than others I’ve had; their Hojicha is a yummy after-dinner treat when you kind of want coffee but not the caffeine that goes with it. I hear good things about their Kashmiri Chai too, which has a mixed base of black and green tea. The Sugar Oolong too.

Mandala and Verdant are really good if you like high quality, unique pure unflavored teas and blends. Personal favorites include Mandala’s Special Dark and Loose and Luscious Lincang pu erhs; Mandala’s Morning Sun; Verdant’s Zhu Rong; Verdant’s Golden Fleece (honeysuckle in a cup, reminds me of Golden Moon’s Honey Orchid); Verdant’s Laoshan Black (and really anything from Laoshan village…the Bilochun Green and Autumn Harvest Green were the first pure greens to win me over as they’re outright delicious and satisfying as well as being wonderfully complex); Verdant’s spring oolongs; Verdant’s Earl of Anxi (it has frankincense in it! Mood-altering); Verdant’s Imperial Breakfast Blend; Verdant’s Ginger Sage Winter Spa Blend. They’re both companies where when I drink their tea, it’s when I can set aside time to really appreciate how complex they are and marvel at how whole worlds can live inside those leaves. Yezi Tea, Taiwan Tea Crafts, and Teavivre offer a lot of pure high quality tea leaves that have similar stunning complexity and richness. I’ve found Tao Tea Leaf to be good quality for the price for these kinds of teas too (their hou kui is my favorite). I want to try Camellia Sinensis for this sort of thing as well, but haven’t gotten around to it yet.

If you want wonderfully smooth, very nicely blended black teas with cheeky-cute packaging and marketing, Andrews and Dunham is quite nice. Double Knit Blend is a fantastic everyday black blend that is as satisfying as a good cup of coffee, full of plain old tea flavor done really well. I love it.

Lupicia is kind of overwhelming and it’s hard to get a sense of their teas before buying if you’ve only got the online shop to go by, but I have found a ton of teas from them absolutely wonderful and very unlike anything else I’ve tried elsewhere (personal favorites include Earl Grey Grand Classic which is very unlike EGs as we know them today but has a very old world feel, smoky with exotic Chinese longan fruit; Momo Oolong Supergrade which is so far my very favorite peach tea; most of their chestnut teas; Orange Kidd for a no-caf treat; and Orzo, which is a kinda bizarre no-caf barley tisane that steeps up black and watery like gasoline but then tastes kind of like coffee).

For subtle but eerily accurate evocation of all sorts of things, Butiki is awesome (too many favorites to name them all…Champagne and Rose Cream white; Cantaloupe and Cream white; Flowery Pineapple Oolong; Holiday Potato Pancakes and Applesauce green; Mango Lassi rooibos; Peppermint Patty herbal which reminds me exactly of the gooey center of a Junior Mint candy; With Open Eyes green which has notes of strawberry preserves, ginger, and toffee; Peach HoppiTea black which is based on peach lambic beer; the new Irish Cream Cheesecake which is delicious as a breakfast treat…and The Black Lotus, which is Butiki’s fancypants English Breakfast, is one of my favorite tea blends ever, hands down). Butiki also offers tons of unusual high quality unflavored teas too—anything from aged oolongs (she has one that’s as old as I am, and I’m…not a spring chicken LOL) to wild teas to darjeelings with notes I’ve never found in anything else (artichoke!) to Kenyan purple tea.

For something generally more affordable and easy to sample a lot of different stuff before you buy bigger sizes, Della Terra is quite nice (they have try me sampler packs where you can pick your own teas to sample, some personal favorites include Oatmeal Raisin Cookie; Lemon Chiffon; Earl Grey Creme; Blueberry Crumble; Pineapple Upside Down Cake which has little to no pineapple in it but a great baked cake dimension). Joy’s Teaspoon does a similar pick-your-own sampler thing (5 or 8) and a lot of those have been quite good (I like Spicy Pear; Mahalo which is a fruity green that always cheers me up; Cinnamon Roll; Lemon Zest). New Mexico Tea Company has some nice and very affordable options too (their Casablanca green is yummy; and at least last I checked they offer free shipping).

I’ve grown to really love Harney and Sons the more orders I place with them—I used to think of them more like Upton Imports, a general survey mass emporium introductory spot with the midling or hit-or-miss quality to match, but I’ve come to recognize their quality. If you like legacy-style brisk breakfast blends they have roughly a billion different kinds and of the mountain of them I’ve tried so far I’ve been hard-pressed to deem any outright bad and tons are excellent (in particular I’m a big fan of Queen Catherine; Eight at the Fort; Big Red Sun). And a lot of their afternoon and flavored teas are fantastic for the price too (Viennese Earl Grey which has a lighter touch than most; Tower of London; Fruits d’Alsace; Boston; Florence; Tokyo). They also offer a few things you rarely see elsewhere, done very well (Soba Cha which is roasted buckwheat tea; Tencha which is a Japanese green rarely seen pre-matcha-ed outside of Japan).

American Tea Room and Samovar seem kinda divisive, and they are indeed pretty pricey (especially without sales/coupon codes) and sometimes hit-or-miss. That said, I love ATR’s Brioche and Nirvana and Coconut Oolong and Victoria, and a lot of their plusher flavored blends (Romanoff, Toasted Fig, stuff like that) are great coldsteeped. I still haven’t found a Samovar tea that completely blew my mind especially given the price tag, but I also haven’t had anything from them I truly dislike either.

Then there’s the world of Frenchy teas (Fauchon; The O Dor; Dammann Freres; Mariage Freres; Nina’s Paris; Palais de Thes; Kusmi), which seem a craze right now on Steepster, ha. If you like heavily perfumed in a layered sort of way blends, they can make you feel pretty posh and also evoke lots of memories the way good perfume can (caveat: I haven’t tried all of these companies yet and actually don’t much care for Kusmi). Finding them with affordable shipping to the United States or Canada can be tricky though, alas.

It’s too soon to tell—I only just got some samples from Black Friday sales and haven’t gone through them all yet—but so far I’ve been quite pleased with the Art of Tea and Fusion Teas samples I’ve tried. Todd and Holland also seems promising, but I still haven’t placed an order. And lots of Steepsters seem to enjoy Simpson and Vail for nice flavored blends.

Verdant looks nice but god it aint cheap

Mandala looks ok but not a great choice

ifjuly said

I thought so initially but the trick with Verdant is if you’re someone who almost never likes resteeped tea, they’re the exception (at least for me)—I can resteep just about any of the Verdant stuff I’ve tried, not just greens and oolongs, over and over and over and it’s great. So 1 tsp is more like 4 to 8 cups, not 1 cup. Given that and the quality I have no problem ordering my favorites from them. Their mission (and David’s all-around brilliance) is also pretty awesome, so supporting Verdant makes me happy.

Mandala’s got some teas that have been so powerfully mind-altering it’s hard to even find the words. Definitely one of a kind. The customer service is over-the-top wonderful too (same goes for Butiki, among others).

It makes a lot of sense Verdant and Mandala are friends with each other—they have similar missions but not quite overlapping specialties, and they’re both truly in love with Chinese tea. I feel lucky and grateful they’re only a click away, doing what they do.

Sil select said

Morebloodytea – I’d be curious as to why you’d seemingly arbitrarily say mandala is not a good choice. Maybe if he the poster was only looking for flavoured teas, but since that wasn’t made evident….

Ifjuly- some good thoughts there :) a few that hadn’t immediately sprung to mind. One of the great things about various people chiming in heh

DigniTea said

ifjuly – nice review of good companies. You put alot of time into this response. Good job!!

TeaLady441 said

OMG. I love the detail in this, and can agree with you on all the teas I’ve tried as well, IfJuly. Someone needs to keep this post bookmarked for the next, "What tea should I try thread? ". :)

ifjuly said

Aw, thanks guys. I just had a little too much time on my hands the other night and I love to go on and on about favorite teas, haha.

Wow. Just wow! I made notes! You are super kind to write all of these suggestions!

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