1283 Tasting Notes


Another Earl from the stash, and another company that is no more.

I have a mostly full container of this. I really couldn’t remember how it tasted before I tried it again. I expected, somehow, stronger bergamot even though I see my original note didn’t find it too strong.

It’s interesting, I think I prefer the Simpson & Vail’s tea base, but this is a better Earl Grey because the flavor profile is more typical. (Sometimes it feels like judging a dog show doesn’t it? The dog is adorable and has a great personality but doesn’t fit a basic criterion of the breed. Not that I’ve ever judged a dog show but I like watching the one that comes on after the Macy’s parade on Thanksgiving.) I see I rated this one the same as the S&V but perhaps that’s okay because they’re good at different things.

I almost didn’t go for Earl Grey at all this morning. Lately I’ve been waking up on Mondays with a feeling of dread in my tummy that makes everything seem unappetizing, but this was nice and mild and isn’t making it worse.


I know that feeling very well.

Sami Kelsh

I couldn’t judge a dog show. I’d give them all top marks for being themselves because they’re all special! Oh, I just want to go play with a bunch of lovely dogs now. weeps with puppy feelings

And oh no to dread feels! I’d imagine Earl Grey’s a good antidote to dread, given the calming effects of bergamot, but also hugs just in case.


Thanks :-)


does organic taste any different than non organic?


Hard to say. To my taste buds, it tastes no different but I appreciate the lack of pesticides that I am imbibing while I drink it. Tea can be VERY high in pesticides from growing and the way it is grown.


I don’t notice a difference in the taste.


ok, thankyou :)

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drank Shanghai Orchid by Teavana
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Giving this another try using QuiltGuppy’s temp and time (93 rating, worth a try, right)? As an aside, I’m reading a collection of Alice Munro short stories which were assigned reading for my writing class. She’s a wonderful writer but I really want to strangle some of these characters.

In any case, I find this tea something I’d also like to strangle because I wasn’t able to get it to work for me the first time, though reading the descriptions from the people who really like it, I think I should like it.

It is much more to my taste using the lower temperature and steeping time. I get a sort of melony, dewy flavor along with the floral that takes it even farther away from the Adagio White Tropics similarities.

I still don’t like it as much as I think I should, though. And not enough to bump the rating….

Sami Kelsh

I absolutely know I’ve read Alice Munro (English degree, so yeah) but seriously can’t remember which ones if I have, or what happens in them! But somehow I agree that she’s a good writer :|


I’m reading stories of Flo and Rose (a collection with a lot of stories about the same two main characters). It’s very well done.

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drank Masala Chai by Adagio Teas
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Sipdown no. 78 of the year 2014. I could have let this go for one more round, but I felt the itch to get another sipdown in. I have discovered that there are approximately 5 tablespoons of chai in the Adagio sample tin. I used two last time, today I tripled the recipe instead of doubling it so I wouldn’t have to have one serving sitting around by itself.

I also used a different black tea this time. Last time I used a Teafrog Assam. This time I used a Leafspa Yunnan.

It does make a difference. I think the Assam in general works better. It adds more flavor to the chai.

This time the flavor in general is milder, closer to Doulton’s experience of it than my original one. But I’m keeping the rating as is because I know it can do better with the right backup band.

Waiting to get a reaction from the peanut gallery. I described it to them as “grown up hot chocolate.” We’ll see whether that is an enticement…

Sami Kelsh

I have a friend who doesn’t like tea, and I think I’m thisclose to getting her to give chai a go. THISCLOSE. Huzzah!

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drank Pu Erh Dante by Adagio Teas
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I haven’t had any pu-erh since my return to regular tea drinking (at least for the nonce) and my pu-erh samples are starting to following me around—they worm their way to the top of every drawer, bin, pile, etc.—so I am taking this as a sign I should get on it.

I hesitate to call how I use a gaiwan “gong fu” because I am anything but skilled. I think of it as more like “bad gaiwan using.” But I try. I have only ever used mine for oolongs so I’m going to give this a try using very short steeps after a rinse (starting with 20 seconds) and see how things go.

First steep. An amazing, dark color. It smells like a wallet. Or maybe a pair of shoes that has only been worn a couple of times. There’s a fascinating sweet note under the leather and earth that sort of pops out at me almost as though there are bubbles of sugar in this (but of course there aren’t). There’s a thickness to the body. I’m getting an almost tobacco-y note. These teas make me think of old time mens’ clubs, with dark red walls, heavy wood furniture, cigars and brandy snifters. The wet leaves smell like soil.

Second steep. I had a mishap and spilled some of this on my counter. Make that “bumbling gaiwan using.” Burned my finger, too. Color is generally the same, maybe even darker. Looks like weak coffee. Flavor seems deeper, like there’s more earth to it and less leather.

Third steep. Some of the darkening undoubtedly comes from the escape of a few leaves from the gaiwan during the bumbling gaiwan use, but the color is the same, dark color. The flavor still has a lot of earth and some leather, with that sweet note to it as well that tastes and feels syrupy in the mouth, moreso than I recall during the last steep.

Fourth steep. The color is showing no signs of lightening any time soon. The flavor may be reaching a turning point at the 20 second mark and I think I may go for 30 next time. It’s like a mouth full of dark, malty beer, but without the head or the alcohol sugar; and that’s pretty much its single note during this steep. The wet leaves smell have a light, loamy scent like eau de river.

Fifth steep, 30 seconds. Just when I thought the liquor would never lighten, it did, just a bit. The syrupy sweet note is present, like a swirl through the more watery feel and taste of the rest of the tea. I’m noticing a little smokiness, too. There’s still a leatheriness to the flavor but it’s more faded now. The overall body is lightening up in feel.

Sixth steep. Very similar to the fifth steep. It is starting to taste more like tea. It’s like this: if a black tea is a merlot, this pu-erh is a port—denser, heavier, fuller, more concentrated. The wet leaves have a slight scent of loam but otherwise just smell hot and wet to my nose.

Seventh steep. Just for fun, I’m doing this one at 45 seconds. (This could go on for while, it seems.) It’s tasting even more like tea now.

I think this could go on for at least a couple more steeps before starting to lose all intensity. An enjoyable revisiting of pu erh on a rainy day.

Flavors: Autumn Leaf Pile, Earth, Leather, Loam, Peat Moss


nonce. love it. :)

Sami Kelsh

Oh heck yeah. (Apart from the burn, oh crumbs!) This tea tastes like a delicious farm to me and it super doesn’t get bitter. You’re making me really sad I haven’t got any, dude!


Sorry, Sami. :-( Delicious farm is a great way to describe it.

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Sipdown no. 77 of the year 2014. I’m sorry to see this sample go. This tea is going on the wishlist for whenever I am able to place a Harney & Sons order.

Ah, Brigitte. It has been so long since we met, and yet, like the best of friends we are able to pick up right where we left off, without missing a beat.

I am upping your rating slightly because you manage to pull off an incredibly full bodied flavor without bitterness or bite. You’re smooth, malty, cocoa-y, just sweet enough and all the things I said about you before are as true today as when we first met.

You are delicious.

Flavors: Berries, Cocoa, Earth, Malt

Sami Kelsh

Brigitte sounds nice. Would you be jealous if I made friends with her too?


Oh no, not at all. The more the merrier!

Sami Kelsh

YAY! flail

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drank Almond Biscotti by Teavana
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I’m laughing to myself because I said yesterday I had a feeling of deja vu and here it comes again.

Let’s compare ingredients:

Teavana Almond Biscotti—Black tea, almond pieces, cinnamon pieces, and safflower blossoms

SpecialTeas Almond Cookie (and yes, I read the thread about SpecialTeas being a provider to Teavana and that maybe being part of why they aren’t around anymore)—tea, almonds, cinnamon, flavouring, safflower blossoms

American Tea Room Brioche—well-oxidized ebony leaves are contrasted with pale, sliced almonds, bits of cinnamon and vermillion-colored safflower blossoms

It’s possible I have even more of these. Good thing I like them.

I’m fairly sure that the Teavana and the SpecialTeas are the same tea. If not, they’re too close to call in terms of differences. In the bag, they smell identical. In the steeped aroma, they smell very close. To the extent there’s a difference in liquor and taste, I attribute that at first glance to the difference in steeping length. The liquor in this one is a bit less cloudy and the overall taste is slightly less sweet and “less” generally.

I suspect, though, that if I steep this one at 4 minutes I’ll get exactly the same amount of “more.”

Rating it the same as Almond Cookie until proven otherwise. I’ve now read that this was renamed and reblended by Teavana as Amandine Rose and then discontinued under that name too, so it isn’t available either. I’m still liking the Brioche better. Not sure why. Maybe it’s psychological because I know I can get the Brioche, but I also still think it evokes pastry more successfully than the other two.

Flavors: Butter, Nuts

200 °F / 93 °C 3 min, 0 sec 2 tsp 17 OZ / 500 ML
Sami Kelsh

Hey, I’m guilty of having a handful of variations of basically similar things too. You like what you like, you know? And buttery almondy things are good things to like. Aww yeahhhh.

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Another of the Earl Greys I found while going through my tea collection. I haven’t tried this one before, either.

I steeped this according to the consensus of tasting notes at boiling and for three minutes.

I didn’t get much bergamot fragrance at all from the dry tea, but the try tea was in one of those S&V paper bags. It was nicely taped up still, but the reality is all the S&V dry leaf smells similar to me because of the paper bags and it all smells a little fruity in a berry sort of way. It must be because I had some berry flavored blacks in the group and the strongest aroma shared with all the others.

I don’t get a ton of bergamot after steeping either, but of course, I don’t like heavy bergamot in my Earl Grey so that’s a good thing. The liquor is clear and a cherry wood red color which must be the influence of the Ceylon.

I like the black tea blend in this one. I definitely taste the Assam, but it isn’t overpowering. I taste the darjeeling as well. It’s a very flavorful base and while I wouldn’t call it smooth, it isn’t harsh either, just has a small bit of bite.

And that’s mostly what I taste, at least this time around. I’m not sure I’d identify this as an Earl Grey if I wasn’t told it was. There is a definite floral note to the tea, but not much of a citrus one and the floral could just as easily be something other than bergamot to my tastebuds.

So I’m torn on how to rate this. On the one hand, as a tea, I quite like it. On the other, I’m not sure it lived up to my expectations of an Earl Grey. On the other hand (what other hand? how many hands do I have?), my expectations of an Earl Grey often result in my feeling that the bergamot is too strong (which this isn’t) and is sitting like a lump of tar in my stomach (which this isn’t).

So I’ll split the baby. Earl Grey points: 75. Tea tastiness points: 83. Rating: 79.

Boiling 3 min, 0 sec 2 tsp 17 OZ / 500 ML

My goodness, how many earl grey do you have in your stash??


At least 10 now. I had more but I sipped some down. ;-)


Fair enough ;)


Do you have A&D Mt Gray? Very fine, not too bold or soapy. Just right.


Yes, A&D’s is one of the ones I have. I haven’t tasted it yet, though. :-)


I really want to know your opinion . Not many Steepsterees love EG. I really miss my Jackson’s of Piccadilly but maybe it’s just good memories


I will definitely write about it when I try it. Since it’s one of my newer teas, I feel compelled to try to drink some of the older ones first.

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drank Vanilla Oolong by Adagio Teas
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After revisiting the Almond Oolong and preparing it in the gaiwan, I thought I’d do the opposite with this one. I steeped three cups worth in the Breville. I’m going to spring it on the BF and see what he thinks.

You know, you live with someone for more than 10 years, several of which have involved an intensive tea obsession, and one day he says, “Did I mention I went through a tea phase? When I lived in New York, I used to go to McNulty’s” and the rest starts to sound like Charlie Brown’s adults going wha wha wha wha because you’re like— what planet are you from and who are you anyway? LOL.

It is possible that the preparation method made the vanilla taste less artificial and bakey to me, however, it isn’t enough of an improvement to sell me on this tea. Sweetening does make the vanilla flavor better (thanks Terri HarpLady for the suggestion), though I have tasted so many really nice vanilla flavored blacks, even the sweetened version of this doesn’t excite me. I’m not noticing that it’s bringing out the oolong more, either, which is one of my difficulties with this. The tea seems to me to be more functioning as a flavor delivery mechanism than as a taste of its own. Bumping it down a few points.


you call someone you lived with for over 10 years the BF? I just find it interesting. to me, if someone’s made it that long they’ve been promoted to ‘partner’ status. :)


Yeah, the nomenclature is a point of discussion sometimes. He uses the term partner to describe me. I’ve been married before, he hasn’t, so my definition of partner is somewhat different and more antiquated, I guess. ;-)

Terri HarpLady

I’ve been with the same guy for 13+ years, & I still call him my BF. Of course, we live 5 minutes apart, so officially we aren’t partners, since we don’t share a house, right? ;)


If sharing a house makes you partners I had a lot of them in college. ;-)


Lol. I have a feeling the law would have a fit if I one day tried to bail taking all our possessions and the house.


Yeah, well, we don’t have a lot of joint possessions. We tend to each have our own things and the house is mine. It predated the BF. ;-)

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drank Almond Oolong by Adagio Teas
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Since I have an almond theme going, I thought I’d revisit this one.

This time I tried it in the gaiwan with steeps starting at 30 seconds, going up to 1:30. Also shared with the BF. Both kids are out on play dates so it’s unnaturally quiet around here. Too bad I still have a headache or it would be a lovely little bit of adult free time.

This is much more enjoyable with this preparation compared to my first jaunt with it. The almond flavor hangs on pretty continually with only a little weakening across multiple steeps. The oolong base is, for some reason, more prevalent, too. I can taste an underlying toastiness, though without any sort of winy tang that would really let me know I’m tasting oolong.

It’s much more enjoyable than the Adagio Vanilla Oolong in my book. The flavoring agent doesn’t come across as bakey fakey in the way the vanilla did.

I’m bumping this a couple of points. I still like the idea of almond oolong better than this particular almond oolong itself, and I wonder whether I should, perhaps, try the Zen Tea Oolong Almond which has about a ten point higher average rating?

Sami Kelsh

I get oatmeal from this tea. I don’t know if that’s weird, but it totally reminds me of oatmeal.


Hmmm. I didn’t get oatmeal. It would have been fun to get oatmeal though…

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drank Almond Cookie by SpecialTeas
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This is another of my unopened SpecialTeas samples from a while ago, and having recently gone over the moon for ATR Brioche, I am finding the ingredient list on this one extremely interesting… and the aroma in the sample packet is like deja vu all over again.

I’m using the same temp and steep time as with the Brioche for comparison purposes, though SpecialTeas recommends a higher temperature and shorter steep. I may try that if this comparison run isn’t satisfactory.

The aroma after steeping is very much of buttery almond pastry. The flavor is as well, and I can see why this got high marks from folks here on Steepster.

The good news for me is that I prefer the Brioche, which is still available, to this one despite the fact that this one is quite yummy. The reason is the complexity of the Brioche’s flavor. Almond Cookie’s flavor, despite its delicious almondy sweetness, doesn’t evoke the same bready pastry flavor like a croissant or bear claw. But on the other hand it does taste a lot like a very buttery version of a biscotti (the ones I eat are far crisper and less shortbready than some I’ve tasted and correspondingly lower in calories). The body of the tea is a bit lighter and crisper.

I’ll enjoy this one but I’m relieved to find I don’t prefer it to the Brioche, since SpecialTeas is no more.

Flavors: Butter, Nuts

200 °F / 93 °C 4 min, 0 sec 3 tsp 25 OZ / 750 ML

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I got obsessed with tea in 2010 for a while, then other things intruded, then I cycled back to it. I seem to be continuing that in for a while, out for a while cycle. I have a short attention span, but no shortage of tea.

I’m a mom, writer, gamer, lawyer, reader, runner, traveler, and enjoyer of life, literature, art, music, thought and kindness, in no particular order. I write fantasy and science fiction under the name J. J. Roth.

Personal biases: I drink tea without additives. If a tea needs milk or sugar to improve its flavor, its unlikely I’ll rate it high. The exception is chai, which I drink with milk/sugar or substitute. Rooibos and honeybush were my gateway drugs, but as my tea skills and tastes developed they became less appealing to me — but I still enjoy nicely done blends where the base doesn’t taste like hamster cage chips. I do not mix well with tulsi or yerba mate, and savory teas are more often a miss than a hit with me. That said, I’m not entirely a purist and I enjoy a good flavored tea, particularly flavored blacks.

I like all kinds of tea depending on time of day, mood, and the amount of time I have to pay attention to preparation. These days, I’ve been drinking primarily green tea during weekdays after my first cup of coffee. On weekends, I’ve been drinking only tea.

Since I find others’ rating legends helpful, I added my own. But I don’t really find myself hating most things I try.

I try to rate teas in relation to others of the same type, for example, Earl Greys against other Earl Greys. But if a tea rates very high with me, it’s a stand out against all other teas I’ve tried.

95-100 A once in a lifetime experience; the best there is

90-94 First rate; top notch; really terrific; will definitely buy more

80-89 Excellent; will likely buy more

70-79 Very good; would enjoy again, might buy again

60-69 Good; wouldn’t pass up if offered, but likely won’t buy again

Below 60 Meh, so-so, iffy, or ick. The lower the number, the closer to ick.

People have sent me tea on occasion, and I was once persuaded to send some Tazo Om to AmazonV. I’ve also done at least one group buy here on Steepster, the famous Doulton-led Dammann Freres experiment years ago. But mostly, I don’t swap. It’s nothing personal, it’s just that I have way more tea than any one person needs and am not lacking for new things to try. Also, I have way too much going on already in daily life and the additional commitment to get packages to people adds to my already high stress level. (Maybe it shouldn’t, but it does.)

That said, I enjoy reading folks’ notes, talking about what I drink, and getting to “know” people virtually here on Steepster so I can get ideas of other things I might want to try if I can ever again justify buying more tea. I also like keeping track of what I drink and what I thought about it, though I don’t put samples in my cupboard and not everything I have at any given time is showing in my cupboard. I do try to remember to remove things from my cupboard once I no longer have them.

I was an early internet adopter and have been online in various environments since around 1990. Steepster is one of the nicest online environments I’ve ever been privileged to participate in and that is saying something. :-)


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