1705 Tasting Notes

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The first I tried this tea was a bust due to bad water. But now I have good water and some time to enjoy it.

The dry leaf smells like black tea, and not to be too obvious, but old wood. Wood from an old tree holding books. That part is not so obvious-my imagination cooked that up.

So 2 min with 190 F water, and pure malt layered by a woodsiness and chocolate hints. It’s dry overall, but sweet and smooth enough towards the end of the taste. It’s also got some fruitiness bordering between something like berry or cherry. Or the common weird fruity aftertaste from iced black tea. The same goes for steep two at 3 min, and three at 5 min.

This is definitely an old tree because it has that dry wood profile consistent with the aged black teas I’ve had (not to be confused with Pu-Erh), and the complexity comes more from the gradation of tastes upon drinking each cup over the cups in unison. As in it tastes pretty much the same in each cup with some variation, but most of that taste variation comes from the liquor moving down your tongue and throat.

I’d say it’s a stellar example of a black tea, but it is a black tea. Easily drinkable by anyone’s standards, it might disappoint people looking for something to Gong Fu with fewer leaves-although that’s totally possible with high gramage. I might add my notes gong fu, but for now, the short western is what I have because it is simple and easy.

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Rasseru Shou

Very smooth liqour with a ink quality black lightened by auburn hues. The taste is just as smooth making me think of mushroom oats: as in, something with a weird mushroom musty sweet dry quality with the dry after taste of steel cut oats. Or maybe I’m a fanciful sensualist- who knows. Very minimal astringency and a little bit of bitter sweetness like black coffee sans the acidity. It definitely woke me up and relaxed me all at the same time well settling my muscle sore stomach.

As for the first Sheng, I’m really surpised how sweet this is. Normally the green shengs have a sour quality, but this is more sweet than anything else resembling something of the smell of cut ginger. I know-a taste that resembles a specific smell. But it seriously has the dry spicy sweetness compacted into a ginger piece. There some moments that make me wonder if this is a white or green tea because the fruity notes head that direction in a tangerine, apricot, or lemon spectrum. Same profile in steep two but more of spicy ginger thing going on. The fruitiness becomes more floral like orange blossom.

I gotta remember these parameters: 5-6 oz 190 F first steep 12, second close to 13. I am really digging it. Wasn’t this one the Yiwu? Either way, i really enjoy it because I get more sweetness than a sour astringency that I usually dread in shengs. Could this be in my head? I’m glad to savor the small amount that I can, though I’ve discovered that Pu-Erhs are more enjoyable in sample sizes for me anyway.

Rasseru

Sheng is a: https://shop.chadao.de/product_info.php?info=p1633_16113-2-li-gong-jin-shi-bing-2013.html

I get stewed fruits & cream, then it seems to develop into something not bitter but just drinkable & that goes on for ages.

The shou is a: https://www.abbeytea.co.uk/tea-shop/pu-erh-tea/2009-gong-ting-(seven-son)-(ripe)

It reminds me of coffee as well – interesting you said minus the acidity, I never thought of that, it isnt harsh on the stomach at all, is it!

Daylon R Thomas

I get the fruits and cream for sure-that’s why it kinda reminds me of a white tea!

joy-yang

Yes, daylon, the chinese teas are with a lot of healthy benefits. any interesting to try some oolong tea like wuyi rock tea or lapsang souchong. This is from origin in Fujian, China.

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95

I was lucky enough to have a sample of this tea, and it is a fantastic Darjeeling. Or it is a fantastic first flush in my opinion because it exhibits some characteristics that I’m not used to.

As much as I enjoy Darjeelings, I find myself liking summer, autumn, or second flushes the most, especially if they have some spiciness, muscatel qualities, and the allusive cocoa-chocolate notes. First flushes for me are usually very grassy, almost like a herbal spice such as basil which is why I hesitate with them. Though they exhibit floral qualities like an oolong, they are usually more drying which is why I wait for highly recommended ones to come along before I purchase them.

I took the $39 budget as an opportunity to try this one, and unlike other first flushes, this tea has more of a bready, chocolate quality along with the more herby and spicy tones. Smelling the leaves gives me the impression of basil and butter smothered bread, with a few pieces of chocolate covered raisins waiting in the background to cleanse my palette. The taste produces a similar effect, but with a buttery smooth body of a mildly sweet dark chocolate with a heavy herby and spicy aftertaste for a tea sans astringency. That profile persists, and the tea is even better when you eat a chunk of 70% dark chocolate for company. The first time I tried this I did exactly that, and then finished off my decadent experience with a Tawny Port Wine. Yes, I’m a snob and enjoy the hell out of that fact.

I’m not sure that everyone would find the chocolate qualities, but drinking this tea straight would definitely find a sweet and savory profile dried up by the herb spiced aftertaste. It’s a black tea with a black teas sweet body but a first flushes green profile. I would highly recommend a try of this tea, though I think that people newer to tea might not get the same impressions that I do, and I am not sure how a Darjeeling connoisseur would think of it.

Flavors: Bread, Butter, Chocolate, Cocoa, Drying, Floral, Herbs, Smooth, Spicy

Teatotaler

As a Darjeeling fanatic I couldn’t agree with you more! In fact, I am sipping a cup of No.78 Jungpana Second Flush SFTGFOP1 from Bellocq Tea Atelier at this very moment. I’m adding India Darjeeling 1st Flush Jungpana to my must have list. Great review!

Rasseru

Not sure if you have tried some of the Nepalese teas from What-cha, but their closeness to Darjeeling (& methods?) give them similar characteristics which I enjoyed, also being a DJ fan.

Teatotaler

Oh yes! I recently acquired some No.70 Himalayan Rani Bhan Nepalese from Bellocq. It was indeed very similar to a wonderfully rich second flush Darjeeling. Loved it! It’s one of the best teas I’ve ever tasted! I definitely plan on further exploring teas from Nepal. I must check out What-cha’s Nepalese teas next. Thanks, Rasseru!

Daylon R Thomas

One thing I usually notice that the Nepalese teas are like tangerine leaning Darjeelings. I need to try some more from What-Cha, but there was one Nepal black I had that was like a great combo between a Yunnan and a Darjeeling.

Rasseru

Yeah, I just tried that one. Everything I have had from nepal has leaned towards FF darjeeling territory, or also white tea (the processing is pretty similar, just reading a little on the subject)

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Sipdown 2016 and it tasted like Green Tea Lemon frosting. This makes me happy.

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I finished a cup last night. I needed it. I have a leak in the heater core of my 1997 Pontiac Sunfire, and it will be a bitch to fix. Luckily I met an angel of a mechanic that will help me. I am still antsy about transportation to work and volunteering, but God is really blessing me right now as the deity screws around with me. Nevertheless, this tea was a great comfort last night against the onslaught of homework analyzing Critical Race Theory, hosting a report of my hometown’s history, figuring out how to deal with my car and transportation, and the bull crap associated with this year’s ugly election. Flower nectar did its work.

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I have so many backlogs to write. Namely an awesome Darjeeling What-Cha offers.

Anyway, this is basically all chai herbal which I like. Cardamom is a good thing for me, and so is cinnamon. I was pretty happy with how this turned out, and was kinda glad that the spices were the main body of the tea. Rooibos is too hit or miss for most tisanes. But yeah, this tea is masala/chai spices with a Christmas feel for relieving stomach aches in short. Good once, good for occasion, but I did not pay full price so I cannot judge fully.

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Andrew was generous as always and handed me an Aged Japanese Black tea. I hesitated to try it being sick and sensitive to any beverage with the least amount of unsweetened tannin. So I tell myself: this will at least boost your immune system, and you can actually taste it.

190 F, 5 oz, and 12 second steep. Pure thick malt with a strong lychee after taste.

Steep 2 at 10 seconds of approximation, and the burning sticks taste is coming through. I still get malt and lychee in the back ground body, but thick smoke covers those two up. The smoke cools down as the water cools down. More tannin present.

Steep 3 at 5 seconds, and the same thing with a hint less smoke. More later.

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95

Still one of my top favorites, and I am so happy I can taste it while sick. I don’t know if my mucus is doing this, but I’m getting a little bit more coconut in the savory body. The lovely confused yellow fruitiness between apples, pineapples, and “Asian Pears” remains.

mrmopar

Hope you get feeling better.

Rasseru

yeah man, hope youre better soon!. I just went to check this out on the website, noticed only one left in stock. Had to try it. – very reasonably priced, good shipping ($6 to uk!)

Its the summer crop so probably not as floral as the winter, but with winter coming up I figured I can try both.

Any others good from them for a bigger winter purchase?

Evol Ving Ness

Daylon, have you subscribed to the Eco-Cha tea of the month club? And if so, what is your take on it?

Daylon R Thomas

Thank you!

Rasseru: um, the winter crop is pretty good and I prefer it ever so slightly. The Spring crop which is what I have is way too savory for me in the first few months, but it felt more balanced as time went on. The two crops were only different by a hint, and personally, I would get the summer crop if it were available because all I want is the basic floral-fruity profile. Their four seasons was surprisingly good and mega apple fruity. Their Jin Xuan which was a Spring Crop had plenty of the sugar cane grassiness/tropical coconut and pineapple vegetal thing going. I’ve always wanted to try their LiShan and AliShan to see how they compare, and I’ve especially wanted to try their AliShan and Wu Yi black. However, the AliShan black is only in a premium package and the other tea is a part of their club. Andrew has also tried this Shan Lin Xi and basically said its a solid standard with quality leaf.

Evol, I’ve always wanted to be in the club, but never have because of budget reasons. One good thing is that you will get plenty of tea even if you do a small package, and if you are in the club alone, you will be getting a unique tea each month. Alexsia Amanda Wilson (Necromancer is a part of her steepster name) is a club member and writes incredibly florid descriptions for each tea. Every other person I know that has tried a club tea has loved it.

Evol Ving Ness

Thank you, Daylon. Most useful. What small package?

Rasseru

Ive just got my pack (was the last in stock so I had to jump) & its quite sweet vegetal compared to your notes of fruit & coconut, & not very pear-y. Still very nice but not stellar (just imo being very into fruity tea), still $20 inc shipping for a decent bit of very good clean sweet tea.

The nicest part was to get to know eco-cha, they seem like a really nice company, decent pricing, organic & have sold out all their stock almost, so good for them. I am looking forward to the winter crops.

Rasseru

Also, 6 days shipping to the UK? Other companies take note – I will be buying from them again & this is a factor

Daylon R Thomas

Evol-I meant if you get a smaller package from Eco-Cha if you buy from them.

Also, Rasseru: have you ever had this kind of pear?
https://www.google.com/search?q=asian+pear&espv=2&biw=1517&bih=735&site=webhp&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiqwaO3557PAhUC6SYKHQ1lC0IQ_AUIBigB&dpr=0.9

Evol Ving Ness

Thanks for clarifying, Daylon. I hope your cold has subsided.

Rasseru

I actually have but I cant remember what they exactly taste like, they arent the usual UK pear

Rasseru

or maybe I havent, I actually cant remember!

Evol Ving Ness

I have four of these apple-pears sitting here. I need to get on it.

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Thank you Andrew! I’ve been meaning to try this.

The other two reviews are pretty close, though this is not quite sweet as I thought it could be. It’s a little bit drying, and it’s fairly vegetal along the creamy plantain body gong fu. Think banana leaves vegetal with a typical Jin Xuan texture. I am getting the first flush Darjeeling taste big time in its grassiness, which is pretty impressive though that taste is hit or miss for me. The smell is fruitier than the taste, though not by much. First steep was 10 sec, and I’ve been in the tens all morning. I liked it more in the first few steeps. Next time, I should do it western to see what I get. I also should not be sick. Maybe then I might get more dessert and fruit qualities.

Evol Ving Ness

Sending healing vibes. Hope you feel better soon, Daylon.

Daylon R Thomas

Thanks. :) I think they are seasonal allergies.

Evol Ving Ness

Probably far better than being allergic to tea. :)

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Whispering Pines Alice
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Dislikes: Heavy Tannin, Astringency, Bitterness, or Fake Flavor, Overly herby herbal or aged teas

Picky with: Higher Oxidation Oolongs, Red Oolongs (Some I love, others give me headaches or are almost too sweet), Mint Teas

Currently, my stash is overflowing. Among my favorites are What-Cha’s Lishan Black, Amber Gaba Oolong, Lishan Oolong, Qilan Oolong, White Rhino, Kenya Silver Needle, Tong Mu Lapsang Black (Unsmoked); Whispering Pines Alice, Taiwanese Assam, Wang’s Shanlinxi, Cuifeng, Dayuling, Jasmine Shan Lin Xi; Beautiful Taiwan Tea Co.“Old Style” Dong Ding, Mandala Milk Oolong; Paru’s Milk Oolong

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I am an MSU graduate, and current alternative ed. high school social studies and history teacher. I formerly minored in anthropology, and I love Egyptian and classical history. I love to read, write, draw, paint, sculpt, fence(with a sword), practice calisthenics on rings, lift weights, workout, relax, and drink a cuppa tea…or twenty.

I’ve been drinking green and black teas ever since I was little living in Hawaii. Eastern Asian influence was prominent with my friends and where I grew up, so I’ve been exposed to some tea culture at a young age. I’ve come a long way since I began on steepster and now drink most teas gong fu, especially oolong. Any tea that is naturally creamy, fruity, or sweet without a lot of added flavoring ranks as a must have for me. I also love black teas and dark oolongs with the elusive “cocoa” note. My favorites are lighter Earl Greys, some white teas like What-Cha’s Kenyan offerings, most Hong-Cha’s, darker Darjeelings, almost anything from Nepal, Green Shan Lin Xi’s, and Greener Dong Dings. I’m in the process of trying Alishan’s. I also tend to really enjoy Yunnan Black or Red teas and white teas. I’m pickier with other teas like chamomile, green teas, and Masalas among several.

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