Rasseru said

Can anyone recommend a really good FF Darjeeling?

Ive tried a few, Montievot and im enjoying Singbulli Silk, but its coming to an end.

out of my teas my favourites are oriental beauty oolong and FF Darjeeling at the mo and i want to try a really good one, and also, what makes a really good one?

I like the bite, lightness & fruityness of FF vs SF, im not too into the deepness/creaminess(?) of the SF teas.

am also ridiculously spoilt because i just bought a gold award winning oriental beauty oolong and want to try some serious FF to see what thats like :)

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boychik said

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Rasseru said

I always forget to say im UK based, and afaik you are mostly american? but good tea can always travel across the sea :)

Try What-Cha, their Gopaldhara estate is one of my favorites, as is their Rohini estate :)

Rasseru said

cool, ive bought from them before, will have a look

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Rasseru said

i havent tried from the Arya estate – you know any others that are good?

you can get from cantons in the uk :) im about to buy 50gs of it

boychik said

Sorry, I dont drink much of FF. they tend to be finicky. Arya Ruby i found exceptional. Hopefully someone will chime in. Many people here order from Golden Tips and Teabox

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Rasseru said

im going to buy some now anyway :)

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Roughage said

I’ve enjoyed the Arya Darjeelings, and have had good service from Canton Tea Co before.

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Rasseru said

ah good. im on a keto diet, so no sugar for a while. and SF darjeelings dont taste right to me unless sweetened a bit. too … creamy? not sure if thats the word

Roughage said

I’m not generally a fan of SF anyway. They are too coarse compared to FF. I don’t drink tea with milk or sugar at all these days. Sugar is too sweet and milk in tea makes me fill sick!

Rasseru said

milk should not be allowed anywhere near tea full stop. but a bit of sugar can be nice. just a tiny bit, mind

Roughage said

I totally agree about the milk, even though I grew up drinking NATO standard tea (milk and two sugars). These days I think that if a tea requires sugar, then it cannot be that good. I’m more of a savoury sort of person now, and not too keen on anything sweet.

Rasseru said

im talking mainly SF darjeeling i think. maybe im just not into them as much as shin zhen or oolong or FF

Lindsay said

I’m doing keto right now too, and I’m having pretty good luck with xylitol and erythritol as sweeteners (not that I use anything in tea most of the time, but sometimes a chai or dessert tea just calls for it). I can tolerate splenda in other contexts but not in tea, and I just can’t handle stevia at all – even the “special non-bitter” brands taste bitter to me.

Psyck said

The only time I sweeten my tea is when I add honey to some iced teas. You could try honey instead of sugar, for some of the non-expensive teas. You can look at FF of Rohini, Margaret’s Hope etc. from Golden Tips as others have suggested.

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Cwyn said

I am not even a fan of Darjeeling in general but I really like FF Goomtee clonals.

Rasseru said

nice. another to add to the ‘first flush trials, part one’

Rasseru said

yeah. bought a goomtree and a few more. nice one!

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Excelsior said

FF Darjeelings change year by year, retailer to retailer. If you can spare the expense,the 2014 Arya FF DJ5 and the 2014 Puttabong FF DJ61, both from Mariage Freres would be my picks. As for 2015 I’ve only had two, the FF Puttabong Supreme and the FF Ambootia. While they are both good, I would still pick the two 2014 teas I listed above. For one reason or another, Mariage Freres is still holding back the release of the 2015 FF Castleton, Margaret’s Hope, and Arya.

Rasseru said

how would the two 2014 compare to the singbulli silk (im guessing 2014)- and what do the numbers represent?

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Excelsior said

Within each flush there are different pickings. DJ1 would represent the very first of a particular estate. On their top tier estates, Mariage will clearly indicate the number of the picking with a DJ number. In general, the lower the number, the more “green” it is. In years past, the Namring DJ1 was far superior to the DJ2 even though they were picked during the same flush. An EX marker indicates it is an experimental crop and for the EX Namrng, the crop is grown with artificial irrigation, and it becomes available as early as late winter.

For your next question I tasted the Singbuli 2014 FF DJ38 and although it was a good tea the Puttabong and Arya was better. How this Singbuli compares with Singbuli Silk? I have no idea. I will say, I’ve purchased the same Darjeeling, the same estate, the same year, the same flush, the same grade(SFTGFOP1), and same name, and the tea from Mariage was by far a better tea. Mariage has a store in the UK and if you ever have the chance to talk to a store employee, they would be happy to explain this in great detail of why this is. The explanation I received was they have access to picks that are not offered to any other retailer. Mariage Freres has been in the tea business for over 160 years. The will pay a premium for a better tea and purchase that tea in large volume. The unfortunate thing is, that premium is passed on to the consumer. Sorry for the long winded answer. I don’t work for Mariage. I just love their teas, and respect the integrity their integrity.

Happy Steeping.

Rasseru said

No, that’s great! I’m really getting into the fine nuances of tea taste and the more I know the better

I want to waffle about the tea for hours :)

Rasseru said

Also, what makes a good FF? I know that i like the Singbulli more than the montievot, it has astringency but it isn’t unpleasant, with a bright and nice floral taste.

- do they get as complex and pleasant as a good Oolong? I guess control of the astringency and sweetness is the first port of call to make a good one?

I can understand they are finicky, its a bit of a weird flavour to start out with, much the same as I imagine how complicated being a Pu-ehr lover can be. That’s a weird flavour to start out with too imho..

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I tasted Ambootia FF and Rohini this year. Both are excellent FF.
Goomtee is a standard good pick. I am currently drinking a Chamong FF.

i usually order with Teekampagne (bulk buys) and with Golden Tips. You could try Golden Tips first, they also offer samples. Their services is excellent and they ship worldwide.

Rasseru said

Cool! I’ll have a look

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