Rasseru said

I dont like caffeine, will i like cha qi?

I had some puehr yesterday, brewed gongfu style, after about the third or fourth cup i felt awful.

I dont like things that raise my heartrate, usually drink oolongs and white teas.. used to be a coffee addict but had to stop, ,now i cant have anything too strong

i was tempted to buy some of the 2015 white2tea last thoughts after a review i just saw, but another mentioned a feeling of adrenaline. not sure id like that!

any thoughts? its a bit expensive for me with shipping at the moment, ive spent far too much recently..

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awilsondc said

Cha qi is a broad term, but the effects can vary depending on the tea. Some pu erh has a cha qi that is energizing quite like what you described here. Others have a cha qi that is relaxing which I would advise seeking out. I doubt you’d like an energizing or “tea drunk” type of cha qi, but I bet you’d like ones that have a more relaxing or centering effect. Read through reviews and see if you find one that pique’s your interest!

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The effects vary, I tend to get heart rate energetic crazy despite something labelled as calming. Sometimes I get more chilled out.

Caffeine wise, I don’t have numbers to back it up, but maybe a more aged pu’er would be best for you to try over getting a 2015 young sheng. Older pu’er is supposedly lower in caffeine.

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Rasseru said

hmm. yeah im not sure i will like the energizing ones.

the decent oolongs i like all have this amazing calming feeling, with the aroma going to your head in a warm fluffiness that feels lovely.

something like that im looking for i guess. Pu ehr is generally quite high in caffeine is it?

AllanK said

Some puerh is high in caffeine, some is low in caffeine. It depends on the puerh. I believe that the loose puerh from Teavivre is reported by Teavivre to be low in caffeine. If momory serves me they list this on their website. Teavana lists the caffeine content of all their teas but they have terrible puerh. The Teavivre loose puerh is good.

Rasseru said

thanks for that. i will try it sometime

AllanK said

Caffeine is more a function of the leaves in a specific sense. Buds are highest in caffeine, small leaves are higher in caffeine than large leaves, and stems have the least caffeine along with tea flowers. I have recently bought a couple of tea flower cakes for days when I don’t want caffeine. They are the equivalent of decaf. They are considered a class of raw puerh tea but don’t really taste anything like it.

Rasseru said

ah ok. not anything to do with processing then? because i like other teas that are buds & two leaves, for example

AllanK said

Some processing can influence caffeine. If you want a good low caffeine green tea try a hojicha. It is roasted and the roasting process is said to lower the caffeine content. It is also sometimes made with the stems of the tea plant for even less caffeine. I do not know if all roasting will lower the caffeine content but the way they roast hojicha does. Somewhere on Steepster is a post on caffeine. A scientist studied caffeine in tea and found that the old traditions of white and green tea being always the lowest were untrue. I would list the thread if I had any idea where it is.

Rasseru said

oh interesting. im not a massive fan of green teas anymore, i love pai mu tan & yin zhen, and jade oolongs, but other than that not really anymore. i used to drink sencha but i much prefer the whites. they dont get me feeling jumpy

AllanK said

Hojicha is an acquired taste anyway. It is different from most green teas.

Rasseru said

ah ok, just googled it. ive tried about 10+ types of green tea, a few were japanese, but not like this. interesting its not vegetal but smokey and caramel

AllanK said

Just a thought, if you don’t like caffeine have you ever tried rooibos herbal. It is available plain or in any number of flavors from sellers like David’s Tea and is caffeine free.

Rasseru said

ive drank a lot of redbush for 6 years or so now, never any of the flavoured ones. its high caffeine i dont like – im really happy with the feeling i get from whites or oolongs :)

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Dr Jim said

When I refer to cha qi it is usually either a relaxing, almost drowsy feeling or else a buzz similar to what I used to feel back in college smoking pot. However, when the effect wears off, usually within an hour, I am left with a caffeine jumpiness that not infrequently affects my sleep, so in my experience, there is not a cha qi that doesn’t eventually come with the caffeine effects.

Rasseru said

ok cool, thanks for the info. im not sure i’ll enjoy being a puehr drinker. another friend has told me this, since giving up caffeine she cant drink it either

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I agree that you might try an aged (maybe 10 years or more) or ripe puerh if you think you would prefer a more mellow qi.

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Rasseru said

ive got a 2006 cake that i dont recall making me feel like this, but i wasnt doing multiple steeps gongfu style. the ones i tried were modern ones, 4-5 steeps and i felt bad

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