Organic Vs Non- Organic tea

when there’s an organic label on the box, there’s a minimum amount of pesticides that could be used to label the product as organic. if the product exceeds that threshold, it’s not considered organic. the us, uk, and other countries have their thresholds on what classifies a product as organic.

certified organic just means that it has met the organic guidelines for that country. just because it met the guidelines, doesn’t mean it’s pesticide free.

always be skeptical, because companies will always tell half truths, never the whole truth.

Pesticides to some degree are necessary.
For my own personal tea plants I have tried to use natural pesticides, BT, Pyrethrine, etc.
But recently had added some pesticide fire ant killer. They tried to invade my plants and would bite me and put scale bugs on my plants. I put up with it for a while for the sake of “organic” and then one afternoon said screw it. I’m tired of getting hurt and picking crap off my plants… time for pesticides!

It’s everyone’s personal choice. I prefer organic foods when i can find them. I wont however grow organic food. Too much drama and too much mess. I live in a tropical area so we have year round plant munching bugs.

We believe in organic tea so much that we built a business from it. We started at a time when it was hard to find certified organic tea and it wasn’t necessarily a popular marketing fad. When you start a business, you really have to have a passion for the product.

Tea is particularly susceptible to the ill effects of synthetic pesticide and fertilizer use. Tea leaves can’t really be cleaned properly when they are used. Plus, synthetic fertilizer use has a definite impact on flavor.

It’s not easy being certified organic for the tea estates or the blender. Our facility is inspected routinely by two agencies. We have to keep a detailed log of everything. It would be easier to just say our teas are really great and probably don’t have synthetic fertilizers and pesticides, but the problem is you just don’t know when it’s not certified.

We feel it’s not worth the long term health risks going with anything other than certified organic. We also feel it’s a long term good thing for tea farmers and the ecosystem. Especially because you really have to take care of a good growing region, because you can’t just move somewhere else. To elaborate more, we wrote this article on the topic: http://www.divinitea.com/why-organic-tea

The following threads may be of interest:
- http://steepster.com/discuss/5065-is-organic-important-to-you
- http://steepster.com/discuss/5160-favorite-organic-black-teas

A quick reiteration of what has been said before, my understanding of the importance of growing organic tea is that given how the tea market works, it’s really in the interest of each farmer to produce the best tasting tea that they can, more so than producing the highest quantity. I don’t know anything about pesticides, but I have read a bit about how tea farmers feel about using fertilizers that artificially expedite the growth of the tea plants. The general consensus seems to be that letting the plants grow naturally, slowly, they way nature intended, creates a much more flavorful tea that absorbs the natural nutrients and minerals of the region (which, as mentioned in the early days of this thread, can be as specific as a single elevation of a single side of a single mountain). The impression I get is that tea plants are very sensitive to their growing medium and conditions, and the reason there are so many different teas to try is not due just to the differences in processing methods, but also to the nuances in the tea leaves themselves. Tea can be likened to wine. It’s in the interest of a quality vineyard to produce /better/ grapes, not just /more/ grapes, and the soil and land and natural environment that the plants grown in play a huge part in developing that flavor.

Edit: To clarify, most good tea is probably grown pretty “organically,” since that’s simply how you make good tea. Whether or not a tea is “certified organic” seems pretty arbitrary. Just buy good tea, and don’t get caught up with labeling.

Tea Brands like Ethique (wwww.ethiquenewyork.com) are now aware and are concern on everyones well being. It is true that tea comes from cured leaves and while they do hold different variety of flavours, this doesn’t mean they are good for you. The farmers who grows them are either using pesticides and other chemicals to grow them. I suggest to find a brand that is 100% USDA organic certified, vegan verified, gluten free and non-GMO. Ethique is one of the few tea brands out there that curate and source high-quality teas. Their teas are also stamped with certifications to meet their customers satisfaction and ensure their safety. Their prices are also very reasonable too! :)

I am glad you asked Elena-Z! Let’s go back and find out what “GMO” means. Genetically Modified Organisms. It is the result of a laboratory process where genes from the DNA of one species are extracted and artificially forced into the genes of an unrelated plant or animal. The foreign genes may come from bacteria, viruses, insects, animals or even humans. Because this involves the transfer of genes, GMOs are also known as “transgenic” organisms.

Can teas be GMO? -Undoubtedly, the vast majority of this new breed of consumers believes that genetically modified organisms (GMOs) have as much place in their teacups as pesticides and heavy metals.

I found this articles that explains more about GMO on Teas -

http://anhinternational.org/2013/10/16/are-you-drinking-gmos-or-plastic-with-your-tea/

http://www.care2.com/greenliving/3-hidden-dangers-lurking-in-your-tea.html

http://www.stepin2mygreenworld.com/healthyliving/health/the-truth-behind-the-teas-your-are-drinking/

http://www.ethiquenewyork.com/top-five-reasons-choose-organic-tea/

I know right, isn’t it crazy!!! That’s why I have only been using organic loose leaf teas and organic matcha powders. I am glad that I’ve found reasonable prices with http://www.ethiquenewyork.com What I like about them is that, they have sample sizes so I can try them in a smaller and cheaper form before I buy the big size. They only sell 100% usda organic certified, vegan, gluten free and non goo loose leaf teas and matcha powders. I guess that’s why they are called Ethique bec it means Ethical in french. :)

I agree that the higher grade of organic teas are hard to find. However, there are companies out there such as Ethique that only sources their teas to not just premium-quality of organic teas but also invested in certification to make sure the products the sell are really at its best. I was just in vietnam recently and spoked to farmers. Though they do claim that their products are all natural/organic, there’s no way for me to completely trust it is organic until I get it certified with USDA for example. I would hate to talk bad about China as I am sure they do make great teas but again there’s tons of Fake stuff out there. They even make fake rice and eggs.. It is crazy stuff!

I don’t hope, i just make sure so for me, Id rather invest in buying from tea brands who source out their products from reputable farmers with proper certifications. Maybe if you are the farmer then you can trust yourself however, I have lived in USA, Vietnam, Puerto Rico, Mexico, Canada, Spain, Israel and I can go on. I visited farmers and unfortunately,I don’t trust nobody until it has that stamp. This lifestyle of organic thing is isn’t for everyone however, in my case I have suffered gluten problems my whole life. Either you have gluten problem or is vegan, I would still suggest that organic way is the way or no way at all unless you want to die early and don’t care about the environment.