I have jumped back into the green teas that Autumn_Aelwyd sent me, and when I had a look at the Chinese ones, I thought this one appealed to me more today. I think it’s the name. It’s that sort of name that pokes at the imagination. I expect it probably refers to the mountain on which the leaves are grown, but in my head it makes me expect something light and almost flimsy. Like mist and clouds, you know?
Before I began making the first cup, I had a bit of a sniff at the dry leaves. They smelled pretty much like I expected them to. Kind of grassy and not really anything else, but there was something about this specific nuance of grassy that I found very attractive. Maybe it’s the mood I’m in today that is specifically receptive to green tea smell or maybe it just has that extra quality. Who can tell?
Feeling very encouraged, I made the first cup. I tried to give it 20 seconds, but it probably turned out to be more like 40, because the first thing that happened when I tried to pour was me getting to use some time on unclogging the spout. I hadn’t even had more than a few drops out of it at that point, so the initial timing was pretty busted. (This is why I don’t usually specify how long I steep these short ones. It’s never even remotely accurate anyway.)
I got it unclogged in the end and poured my cup. And then I was disheartened because it had that thick, heavy aroma like the first steep of Dragonwell. A bit greasy and reminding me of cat breath. You may recall, I was not particularly fond of that first Dragonwell steep, but that it improved for me a lot already on the second one. This one has a lot of that same quality to it, although not as strongly.
The flavour, thankfully, is not that thick and greasy. If we think back to that Dragonwell again, I would describe this as an even mix between that first and second steep. It does have that thickness and heaviness to it, but there is a strong note of something with a little more bite. Green asparagus, steamed just so springs to mind. Slightly stringy stems and all.
Well that was rather nice, so let’s proceed right away!
Second steep was also a little inaccurate on the timing, first because I had managed to misplace my cup and second because this is one spout-clogging tea. This time the aroma has lost that greasy heavy note again. The aroma is rather vague now, but there are notes of floral sweetness in there. Nectar-y, I would say, because it’s not that dusty, perfume-y sort of floral.
Unfortunately all that dusty floralness is to be found in the flavour, complete with a funky after-taste. I think this might be what people mean with a mineral note. It does taste a bit chalky. Can’t say I’m too pleased with that. Where did my steamed asparagus go?
Strangely, I did have a hunch that I should increase the steep time some for this round, but I decided against it because it seemed so unnecessarily early to do it on the second steep already when I didn’t even have any specific reason for doing so. Now I think I probably should have gone with the hunch.
I liked the first steep a lot better than this one, so let’s just skip it and go straight to the third with a better steep time.
I gave the steeping time a good whack upwards for the third round, nearly doubling it. It’s still quite floral and dusty in flavour and with that chalky note in the background, but I’ve got the steamed asparagus note back again. It’s sort of keeping to itself discreetly, but it’s definitely there.
Considering the floral dust flavour and the chalkyness, I don’t think I’m going to get anything more useful out of this one. I wasn’t too fond of the second or third steep, but I found I rather enjoyed the first one. Enjoying the first steep is, to me, far more important than enjoying the others, so I’m going to rate it based primarily on the first steep.
With this in mind, I think is one I should also try Western style as well, even though I seem to be enjoying green more when done in multiple short steeps.
You give this tea the highest possible rating? Do you work for Teavana or something, or is your palate too naive to recognize a truly good green tea?
@chadao The worst kind of tea snobbery is the rude kind.
I apologize to both of you for the brutality of my comments. It was not respectful, nor was it becoming of a true tea fanatic. I hope you might forgive me for my words.
@Camiah: let me rephrase my disagreement with your rating. The only reason that I cannot give this tea anywhere near a 100 is because it tastes like an everyday green tea. At 15 dollars for 2oz, it is just not worth it for me. However, to each their own, and I hope you enjoy your tea ventures from here on out.
@chadao Perhaps this is the best green tea she has ever tasted and she has perfected the brew time for her palate. You cannot assume that everyone on Steepster has access to the finest teas on earth at the most favorable price. Sometimes what is local and easily obtainable is perfection.
@Cheryl. Fair accusation. No, I don’t work for Seven Cups, but I will admit, I do have a bias toward this company that introduced me to the finest Chinese teas in the world. I will also admit that I have something against Teavana. It seems to me that this company thrives upon selling low quality tea at ridiculously marked up prices, assuming the acceptance of a customer who knows now better, thus surviving on lies and duplicity. Once again, I will ask forgiveness for the harsh words in my first comment. However, I will not ask forgiveness for championing my opinions, which is something that we are all entitled to, and something that I will not rob anyone of (this does not mean that I will not explain why I disagree with other peoples’ opinions).
Again, though, you make a valid point of suspecting my ratings. I have only been on this site for two days.
I’m sorry, I didn’t realize I was fighting with someone on here. I simply thought that I was respectfully disagreeing with the thoughts and opinions of others, regardless of my own naivite. Continuing this civil discussion…. I once again will state that I neither work for nor own Seven Cups. I work for a much larger, publicly owned tea corporation, essentially as a retail slave. I love my job, as weird as that sounds. I know the owner of Seven Cups, and she is the only certified Chinese Tea master to own a tea shop in the States. Naturally, her products support her certifications. She spends 3-4 months on Chinese tea farms, selecting only the best teas to bring home to us silly Americans :)
Anyway, Cheryl, your posts indicate that you know something about tea. Could you possibly recommend me to some teas and companies that I might enjoy, so that I could expand my palate?
Hi Cheryl! Those with an agenda usually show their true colors right away.
Personally, I love being a silly American. It shows me who is worthy of my business by still treating me with respect, and who is worthy of my respect.
@chadoa I am sure you have plenty of places to buy tea without a recommendation from me.
So I suppose it is my turn to weigh in on this. Chadao, your original comment was condescending and rude, and an extremely unfortunate choice of words if you really wanted to know the reasoning behind my rating, the evolution and development of my tastes, and my feelings about Teavana. A better choice of words might have actually stimulated an interesting discussion, that now, I can guarantee you, will never happen. I accept your apology, and would simply recommend that in future comments (to me or anyone else) you have a modicum of class and check your condescension at the door.
Hi Cheryl! It was actually quite interesting to come home this afternoon and rubberneck the thread. I didn’t get a chance to respond when I got up this morning, and it did warm my heart to see some response from others. I was rather gobsmacked when I saw the original comment.
Cheryl, I forgot to ask, what did you order from Teavivre? I loved the samples I got from them and quickly drinking down all my black tea so I can get the Keemun and Yunnan Golden tip. I had a little too much fun tea buying at the beginning of the year/end of last year and need to use up what I have before I get more.
Nice order, Cheryl. I am getting my third order from there soon….. yes, it is a sickness, that ordering of tea……
Hi Camiah. Sorry to start the trainwreck today, but nothing burns me up more than people who think only their opinion is the right one…..such narrow-mindedness…… (And I would have loved the discussion on how you came to love this tea!)
@Camiah Thank you for your pardon. I hope that I can continue conversing with you on a more civilized level. On another note, I tried this tea yesterday, and I have to say it was better than the last time I tried it. It was very refreshing on this hot spring day in CO, and I can see why you like it so much!
@ SimplyJenW I like your input about being a silly American. As to agendas, who does not have an agenda? Who on earth can live a fulfilled life with out an agenda, or as I like to call it, purpose? Of course I will show my true colors from the get go, this is who I am and I am proud of it. I only hope that by joining this blog, I might be able to refine my agendas so that they are more in line with truth, and I thank you for helping me toward this goal.
I know that Cheryl is done talking to me, but I have to clarify one thing for everyone. I have done my own googling, and I see no connection between Seven Cups and ebay’s China Cha Dao. Before I get suspicious of a fellow steepster member’s veracity, I wonder if someone can show me how these two companies are connected.