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Got a sample of this one in a package from SimplyJenW… yay for continuing my black tea education! I’ve had one other Golden Monkey before, and that was Harney’s. That one I first tried way back when I really wasn’t into unflavored black teas at all, but I liked it pretty well (but not enough to seek out others).
The dry tea for this smells malty and hay-ish. When I smelled this and the Harney version back to back, this one smelled brighter and the Harney one smelled more caramelly. When steeped, this tea has a nice depth to the aroma. It smells honeyed and yes, a bit like dried apples. Also some toasty grains, a bit. Other people have said “tart apples” in tasting notes for this one, and I think I get that… it’s definitely kind of fruity as well as a bit alfalfa-y. There are some light chocolatey notes there, but they’re definitely not the main event. All in all I really enjoy the flavor of this one… except the fact that there is a layer of bitterness over everything. I’m very sensative to bitterness in black teas and this one is oversteeped to my tastes. I definitely need to drop my water temp a smidge next time and see how it goes.
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Scottish Breakfast
Leaves: they have a distinctive fairly strong scent… that i just cant seem to identify… it just smells like something you’d imagine drinking in the morning… the leaves are pretty small while some look rolled others do not, not sure if this is intended?
Liquor: the color is dark, and it steeps very very fast… ive often overbrewed this tea… i use times dramatically short of the 3-5m prescribed times for blacks….that being said if you get it just right its very nice and worthy of everyday drinking, has that smooth(malty???) feel and if you dont overbrew it has a slight tinged taste to it? like a metallicness? or a rawness? not a bad thing just strange
overall i do like this tea(when i dont over brew it :rage:)… but i would like to try some more teas before settling( irishbreakfast teas are my staple tea )
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China Keemun
Leaves: the smell of these is interesting..has a chocolatey smell(darker) like you would imagine a bag of chocolate(not milk chocolate)crumbs might smell- the leaves are pretty small but bigger than CTC
Liquor: the taste was pretty bold/upfront and it struck me as a bitterish tea, not so much in the brewing but in the rough/chalky kind of way.. might be considered astringent?
overall not the worst tea ive had… but i wont be stocking any “keemun” teas
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Tippy Orthodox Assam
Leaves: mild smell- mild black tea smell(of the brkfst teas) but sweeter…better smelling(imo)- the leaves are about average size
Liquor: this has a lighter liquor than the breakfast teas, comes off close to an irish breakfast but smoother i guess you could say, also has a full mouthfeel
overall i really like this tea
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Ceylon Op
leaves: hard to say but overall mildly sweet fruityish scent, leaves larger than CTC but not the biggest leaves ive seen-after steeped leaves just smell like… wet leaves, not really distinctive
Liquor: the color is lighter than other blacks ive tried, the mouthfeel is pretty round and i almost want to say tangy feel/taste… not the most bold tea but imo one of my favorites for taste/mouthfeel
the only thing keeping me from drinking this tea as a primary is that i feel the ‘kick’-caffeine is not there… it just doesn’t have a strong physical effect :sadface:
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i have been a little hesitant to review black teas, as they are (imo) harder to compare to other tastes/experiences …but ill do my best
the leaf is cut/rolled into tiny pellets(very tiny) and has an almost absent smell… i kinda like the mildness of the scent
when steeped the water turns dark very very quickly(in my experience) possibly due to the larger side surface area of the leaves(being in tiny pieces?) i tend to cut the steep dramatically short of the prescribed 3-5 for blacks
it also provides what i consider a large amount of brews/cups(compared to other blacks)
the mouthfeel tends to be really thin… i dislike this greatly… but it is my understanding that this is usual with englishbranded teas?
the taste i don’t much care for as i prefer irish/assam type blacks more.. but the taste lines up with what i’d expect from an english breakfast
overall im impressed with the tea but alas it is just not for me
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Just in time for the weekend I feel like I am getting a sore throat, how aggravating. I hope I get to go to the gym later and hang out in the sauna, maybe I can sweat it out.
Anyway this is a sample I’ve had for months now. I figured maybe I would drink green tea for the rest of the day to the antioxidants. This is assertive and vegetal but not as smoky as some gunpowders I’ve had.
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I like gunpowder tea but I’m not sure what the difference is between the different grades and brands, this is a finer tea than the standard gunpowder according to Upton, so here goes nothing.
Steeping method: infuser mug, 1 heaping teaspoon of tea pellets…
Tea liquor is an olive green with a bit of brothy thickness. The steeped leaves smell mostly vegetal, like boiled greens. This is definitely on the full bodied and robust spectrum of greens. It has a smooth mouthfeel, very vegetal with notes of green olive, a slight bit of pungency in the finish. There isn’t a lot of smoke in this gunpowder which is too bad, I like mine to be a bit smoky. Mild astringency. This wasn’t bad but I don’t think I’ll need to buy anymore beyond this sample.
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I think I’m drawn to the name! Not a clue about what it should taste like! You are brave…thinkin that with that name it should cure you!
It does do well infused with their Egyptian Spearmint though.
Will she be able to dance like Steve Martin?
I just had to see if you had rated any teas a 79 since 79’s got left off your rating system :)
@ScottB – oh you’re right, I had to go in and fix that!
I’m sure the 79’s are happy to be out of ratings limbo :)
Well well, good afternoon folks!
Missy decided we were going to have a darjeeling face off today. We have a little bit left of this, TD28 Tindharia, and the Golden Moon darjeeling.
This particular darjeeling is a first/second/multi-estate super blend as far as I can tell. It’s like Captain Planet in tea form. Out of the three, it ends up being the lightest in color as well.
The flavor of this one is quite smooth, it’s very mellow with a slight fruitiness, I might consider it a peach flavor. It still feels distinctly darjeeling though, not just a nondescript black tea.
Overall, quite pleasant. I have some astringency right now, but as I’m sampling back and forth between three different teas… I don’t feel I can appropriately blame any of the three for sure.
Winner? I think this one, but only slightly better than Golden Moon. And I’d be lying if ‘availability’ didn’t come into play on this (I know I’m going to keep buying from Upton for other teas, so my Darjeeling might as well come from there, amiright?).
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Missy decided we were going to have a darjeeling face off today. We have a little bit left of this, the TD60 blend, and the Golden Moon darjeeling.
This one is a single estate, second flush darjeeling. It’s a darker colored liquor. It’s kind of funny. We used to drink all of our teas in our big super mugs (~18 oz), but we just picked up a handful of clear glass mugs because Missy wanted to see the teas she brewed. So now that I can more appropriately ‘see’ the color of the teas, I feel like it isn’t fair of me to NOT describe the color of the tea. Maybe this makes no sense, but if you’re following me, you’re probably used to me not making sense!
The flavor on this one is VERY fruity. I know that darjeeling teas have the ‘muscatel’ flavor that is so coveted, and I think this one is definitely a good example of that. I don’t really like the name of that though, sounds way too poshy. It’s grape, people! GRAAAAAPE. Muscatel just confused people, and, well, makes your tea sound stinky.
Anyway, this one is kind of grape first, ask tea questions later. This isn’t inherently bad, and to be honest the fact that the flavor was a little more HI I WEAR PURPLE made me think it was better than the TD60 blend. More flavor = more betterer, right? Well, no. As I finished this cup (i.e. kept drinking it straight instead of flitting between three different cups of tea), the flavor really started to get… well, annoying. Basically, it was a lot better in moderation.
Nod goes to TD60.
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Good discription! Did it kind of turn into Ripple!?
Well it sounds great to me :)
When I think of grape, I think of either grape-flavored icky stuff like grape soda or grape ice pops or grape candy, or I think of the sweet fruit that one might eat … not the grapes with which one might make wine. And muscatel does not taste like sickly sweet grape soda, or even like the fruit that I occasionally eat, it tastes quite different, which is why I distinguish one from another.
Here here LiberTEAS is right!
Yeah, and that’s one of those things that might just be due to experience. I can count the number of wines I’ve drank in my life without taking my socks off, so my mind doesn’t really have a flavor association there. So to me, it just tastes like an earthier, sour, grape.
Not a wine lover here either. But grape jam is yummy, but of course it usually has sugar added. Different than grape soda or candy etc though.
Generally speaking, I don’t like grape flavored things, I don’t even care much for grape jam or grape jelly unless it is the grape jelly that my gramma used to make from the grape vines she had in her backyard. It is likely that it will not be that grape jelly, since she no longer is making grape jelly and those vines have long since been pulled up. (Does that make me a grape jelly snob?)
Anyway, I don’t drink a lot of wine either. I used to, but, since I started drinking tea regularly, I don’t drink much of anything else. Even when I did drink wine more often, I was never what one would consider a wine expert. Not by any stretch of the imagination.
I guess the point I was trying to make above is that there is a difference in flavor between what I taste as muscatel and what I taste when I taste grapes or grape flavored foods and/or candy. So, that is why I distinguish it with the word Muscatel … not to make my tea sound stinky or confusing. :)
I am in need of a light, citrus-y blend today. I’m making short ribs which, while delicious, have the downside of taking all day to make. Sure, most of it is just time in the oven, but chopping the veggies, prepping the seasonings, searing the meat, and caramelizing the onions takes a good 2 hours of work. Plus having the oven on for 5 hours isn’t that pleasant. So, a light tea it is! I was looking for one in my sample bin since I REALLY need to cut down on the overflow, and this caught my eye: not because of the citrus, really (though that’s why I ended up picking it) but because of the name on the label. Upton lets you put a name on your tea under “Packaged for.” I suppose it’s so you can gift them to people, but I decided to be delightfully immature so all my tea from them is for Batman.
I’ve been looking for the perfect grapefruit tea: I adore grapefruit juice but the flavor doesn’t seem to transfer completely in blends. I’ve tried quite a few and so far the vanilla grapefruit from H&S is my favorite, but it’s still not quite tart enough for me. The dry leaves of this smell SO grapefruity, so my hopes were pretty high. Sadly, I think the base is way too assertive here: it’s very powerful and even a little smokey which I find odd. The grapefruit is there, but only really in the aftertaste, and the juniper is muted as well. However, it’s more pure grapefruit than any other tea I’ve tried so I am not giving up hope! I have enough left in the sample to try some other brewing methods to see if it will bring out the flavor better: I’m thinking the water was too hot, even though they recommend boiling.
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1) How awesome is the Batman thing! I wish I thought of stuff like that! Now I want to order tea from Upton just so I can put something cool on the label.
2) You are aware, aren’t you, that everyone who has your address from doing a swap with you is plugging it into their GPS right now to see if they can get there before all that food is gone!
Delicious sounding short ribs! Does this mean Batman is your tea drinking alias?
Nananana nananana Batman! How awesome is that?!
Yum! Short ribs! (if you ever want to do it in a crock pot slow after searing…I have a recipe that keeps the kitchen cool in the Summer! and tastes wonderful…but it uses dark beer and buckwheat honey…and of course those carmalized onions…). OUCH!
Haha, I’m glad you all approve of tea for Batman. That’s what I use when I get food anywhere that requires a name: it’s just so much fun watching a confused Jamba juice employee holding up a drink and asking for Batman.
@Bonnie: I was actually going to do the ribs in my slow cooker, but I wanted the veggies a little crunchy and firmer so braising was the way to go. I wish I’d though of dark beer/honey though, that sounds AMAZING! Totally going to try that next time.
Oh, the poor Jamba Juice employee!!
We actually got a sample of this, and a sample of their St. Isaac’s blend with our Upton order. Both are quite good, and very similar… but the St. Isaac’s was definitely a notch or two more grapefruity. If you’re a grapefruit fan, that one is worth a buck or two towards a sample to try.
I actually have a sample of St. Isaac’s already! I thought it might be less citrusy than the summer blend so I tried this one first, but St. Isaac’s is definitely next on the list. Good to know it’s more grapefruity, since this one was almost what I wanted.
Batman, LOL! I’ll have to tell the boyfriend about that, it should be right up his alley humour-wise. :D Lately he’s taken to naming his Diablo III characters after Danish words for fish.
Now I’m tempted to have my next Upton order packaged for Diablo, Lord of Destruction!
DO EEEEEEEET!!! :D
Lol this is too funny!
Pshhh, silly, Diablo is the Lord of Terror :P
I think I might have mine packed for Darth Vader, though the girls say I should go for a slightly more obscure character.
I think we should have a competition to see who can come up with the most ridiculous name to put on an Upton order. XD
Inigo Montoya?
OMG, Princess Bride, right, Dylan? That is such a great movie (and he is a great character).
You all totally crack me up. I am going to consider doing something like this sometime. How about, Morphius? Or (trying to be more obscure) a character from a book like, Mr. Wickham, or Duke Leto Atreides, or Sméagol?
Check out Lupicia’s Grapefruit Green if you want a citrusy punch in the mouth. As for picking a character name, I think it’s funnier if it’s a well-known character instead of someone obscure. If it’s obscure, you might be the only one who gets the reference. Batman takes the cake. ;)
I hear you, CHAroma. When it comes down to it, who’s ‘well-known’ and who’s ‘obscure’ are actually judgements. The characters I mention are all actually ‘significant’ characters from ‘very popular’ novels (my judgement). And,for example, hearing (or reading) the name “Inigo Montoya” gives me much more meaning than hearing (or reading) the name ‘Batman’; still, I respect the fact that others may find it otherwise. Although ‘obscure’ things are ‘less likely’ to be identified by others, the more obscure they are, the more meaningful the connection is, for me, anyway. But, to each his own, eh? : – )
For the most part, I agree with you. But even people who have seen the LOTR movies don’t remember that Gollum was born Smeagol. So, they’d probably be even less likely to recognize the name when printed on a tea package.
I’m back to my current obsession: the FF darjeeling. Could not resist one more cup of tea for the afternoon. Today this strikes me as being kind of nutty and rich with light muscatel notes, I cannot believe the natural sweetness in the finish of this tea, it’s incredible and I am sooo happy. I bumped the rating up a couple of points.
see my previous note for more info. if you’re interested. :)
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I’m a bit tired and short on time this morning so this is note is going to be short and I may update it later.
Here’s a lovely light bodied tea, with a clear yellow color. Slightly flowery with hints of unripe banana and a custard tart like sweetness in the finish. The tea lingers nicely in the mouth and has only a touch of astringency. Not my very favorite first flush darjeeling of the season, but still quite wonderful all the same.
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This is exactly what a breakfast blend should taste like. It’s malty and a bit chocolatey.
I can understand how folks might put milk in this, however, not I. A bit of honey is the perfect addition.
It’s a beautiful dark amber color with just the right amount of astringency. This could turn into a morning favorite easily.
I must also say, the 2nd steeping is as good as the first.
A bit of a warning: this tea is a lot like coffee grounds. Find a good steeping basket with very fine mesh.
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Had this a couple of days ago, but I was having loading problems, so I wasn’t able to log it. So I’ve had several cups since, and I’m actually rather glad, because I learned something: This blend is super, super forgiving if you accidentally oversteep it for, say, 12 minutes. Oops. Most of them I’ve gone a little over 5 minutes, though.
I started the British Blend sampler from the end because I am contrary, and this proved a bad idea because I’ve just been drinking this one and have yet to touch the rest. But it’s really good! It’s good, smooth cup with this really nice hint of smokiness to it. If it was decaf, I could drink it all day. It could stand to be a little stronger, but I guess then I couldn’t steep it for 12 minutes and have it come out still drinkable, so that’s alright.
Another note: When I ordered the sampler, I thought the price was a tiny bit steep, but wanted to try Upton so I bought it anyway. Then, when it arrived, I realized that each of the samples is more than an ounce of tea, closing in on 1.5 oz. That’s a lot of tea for a sample! So it gets a thumbs up for that.
My only complaint is that I like to smell my tea and none of the Upton blends in the sampler, this included, has much of an aroma dry or steeping. It’s not completely absent — that would be weird — but it does take some of the fun out of opening the tin, to not get deliciousness wafting right up to your nose.
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Hello Steepster! Today things seem to be moving smoothly enough I can try a posting. Since summer is right around the corner Dylan procured some samples of iced tea blends.
This one is pretty good but heavier on the citrus notes than I typically take. Citrus here seems to be plenty of orange with subdued grapefruit and an almost pungent note in the background. I did feel there was a fruity sweet flavor that rounded all the citrus out nicely. The base is smooth and brisk without any bitterness or astringency. Not a bad iced tea really if you like the citrus. I think citrus piledriver would suit me better. I love that creamy addition to the citrus.
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Another sample here from Upton – I decided to get this after reading Triumph’s review of it, thought it sounded kinda interesting.
This is definitely more on the full bodied side of green tea, which is appealing to me. It does have an earthy, almost woody note in addition to some vegetal ones. I also am picking up on the apple flavors of the tea. Upton’s note says Malt but it doesn’t seem terribly malty to me. The finish here is quite pungent with a plate cleansing astringency. This was interesting to try but I found it a bit acrid for my tastes, perhaps I will try a shorter steep next time… I have enjoyed trying it, but don’t think it will be a repurchase item for me.
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Thanks to Scott Tea Man for this one, the last of my pre-chingming samples!
I steeped this in a glass teapot for 3 minutes at around 175F. The color of the tea is a very light yellow and I agree it looks kinda like a white tea due to the large furry leaves on this!
This is a very light and delicate tea, I am definitely picking up notes of honeydew melon and perhaps… cucumber? There is a slight sweetness to it as well, a corn husk aroma.
I’m trying to appreciate the subtle flavor of some of these lighter green and yellow teas, it is a bit challenging for me at times, but I am coming to appreciate them for what they are and enjoy them at different moments when the mood might strike. It’s great to have some teas that are devoid of astringency and I would place this in that category as well.
As always I am grateful for the sample and have enjoyed trying something new. This is fairly tasty but not something I’d go out of my way to purchase.
Happy Memorial Day everyone!
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You’re havin a good tea day! Nice thing about the CITY is that it’s always good tea drinking weather! Did you go to the bridge 75th? Both my parents were kids and walked across the day it opened to foot traffic only. I have the original ticket (brochure). I went to the 50th with my kids. Don’t think I’ll be alive for the 100th! (hum 89 maybe).
@ Bonnie, I did not go to the bridge anniversary, was kinda busy last night. :) There were lots of fireworks here though.
This is one of the pre-cm’s I would reorder. Glad you liked it amy. Hope everyone had a good Memorial Day! :))
Okay, I’ve never had a silvery jun mee before so trying this one out from Upton today. The leaves are dark with some silvery bits so perhaps that’s where the name came from.
It’s very intriguing but I can’t quite place the flavor. I am definitely getting the cocoa with a bit of sweetness. There is a bit of smoke in the finish but it seems quite subtle. It also isn’t quite as hefty as a keemun. This is an easy one to drink plain but could also accommodate a splash of soymilk, or regular milk… but it really has no bitterness or astringency that I am picking up. That is a definite plus for the folks like me with sensitive tummies. I liked this but am not necessarily sure I need more. Will have to think on that one!
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I’m pretty sure I have a sample of this one somewehre…….now where did I put it?
@Scott – ha I know the feeling!
Hmm this makes me curious, I love the silvery curls in Eastern/Oriental Beauty but Darjeeling also often has silvery bits and I still have mixed feelings about Darjeeling.
On a somewhat unrelated note I had a dream that I was in a grocery store named Upton Imports that had a food court (with next to no tea selection) and seemed to also have books, posters and flooring, I kept trying to find the tea aisle and my husband was trying to direct me on the phone, but I couldn’t reach it/him. I wonder want that says? Also I think it was in the UK, which is odd as I know it’s on the East Coast. I remember thinking perhaps this is Canton Tea? But the logos all said Upton Imports and I thought well I guess they import a lot more than just tea, no wonder it’s so affordable.
@Autumn – you clearly have Upton tea on the brain! Is it time to place an order?
I did not find this at all to be like a darjeeling, FYI…
Upton has a way of getting into people’s psyche, for sure … think it’s the endless possibilities : )
……and great customer service and tea. :))
This was the first sample I tried from Upton Tea. If this is any indication of what I can expect from them, then I’m delighted.
This is a lovely Earl Grey. It’s fairly heavy on the bergamot, which is my preference. The little blue cornflowers are pretty, but don’t add (or detract) from the flavor.
I drank this with a bit of honey.
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Brew temp 208
Yes, I bought this because it is supposed to be one of the teas thrown into Boston Harbor. Why not-the sample was only a dollar or so.
This is really nice. It tastes like a cross between Keemun and Lapsang. The aroma is unusual, I smell perhaps pine, but also something else that I cannot identify-I’ll have to work on that. Smooth, flavorful and pleasant.
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I drank this one right after my darjeeling comparison today. I find I can taste the darjeeling in it. That bright, coppery flavor I think must be a characteristic of darjeelings. I think the ceylon adds a depth to the sweetness of it and a hint of some thing like wood smells. I really like bergamot and vanilla together, but this is amazing. It has no perfume smell or taste to it at all and yet I still know for sure there is bergamot in it. Dylan thought this might be really good iced. I agree, I’ll save the last little bit for icing.
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It just occurred to me that I haven’t seen any posts from Dylan lately! I checked and haven’t managed to be kicked off his followers list, so I guess he’s just busy or something? Usually both of your notes are in sequence in my Dashboard :D
I am confuse as to how others are able to access my cupboard and review the teas I receive or purchase for review? Most odd. No uncle tom or what have you here. Do refrain and leave me be.
@ Krystaleyn we still both have you on our lists! We’ve been having issues with steepster, so he has gotten out of the practice of posting. I wish I could get to my notices more often.
@suele771 it appears you take issue with this review because you have reviewed it before. I reviewed it having no thoughts or concerns about teas you may have purchased or in your cupboard.
Today I decided to compare the Darjeelings I have here. I have four. Three from Upton and one from Goldenmoon. I actually tried this one a week ago or so. Now I need to find the best of the lot.
Again this is soooooo yummy. This one is bright and coppery too but very smooth. The fruity notes I think I get with darjeelings are quite apparent this time, lots of peach. I can’t find the bite I normally get with black teas. I’ve had it for about 5 minutes with another cup and they are both gone! Sad face.
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I thought this was pretty good too. ;)
I think this is a blend od FF & SF Darjeeling teas, right? Yes it is…….I was just checking my latest addition of the Upton Tea Quarterly-received today! :))
Not a bad price, not bad at all.
I’m still waiting for my new Upton catalog!
They sent me 2.
No fair! :)
I’m sure you’ll be reading yours in a couple days. :)) I wish they would only send me one.
Why, yes ScottTeaMan it is a blend. I really like it. I think it may be one that gets to stay in my cupboard, but I have to pass it through Dylan first.
This is the last of the pre-chingming teas I ordered fron Upton Tea Imports, and I have to say this tea is quite memorable. The dry leaves smell lightly creamy and fruity, and the leaf sets are beautiful-consisting of two leaves and a bud. The lower part of the leaves are green, but there are lots of white, extremely furry (fuzzy) leaves. This Snow Dragon looks alot like a high quality white tea!
I used roughly 2.5-3 tsps of tea in my glass press and an 8 oz cup. The steeping leaves looked beautiful, and smelled faintly of melons. The steaming hot, wet leaves smelled like…….Nori seaweed sheets: http://www.stashtea.com/Yamamotoyama-Toasted-Nori-Sheets/dp/B006E9T566 , mildly cooling with gentle spinach-like aromas; until, at their coolest, having more of a starchy green bean aroma.
The cup was a light yellow, and only after cooling a bit, could I detect slight creamy and fruity notes. This light character in the cup was somewhat deceiving, as the flavors washed my tongue and palate. As the tea flowed over my taste buds, my expectations were awakened and surprised by the gentle, yet full mouthfeel as a delicious creamy sweetness greeted me. Melon-like notes of cantaloupe mingled in harmony with the delightfully sweet, creamy texture and flavor of this tea! :))
For my second cup, I used roughly 1.5 tsp of tea added to the previously steeped leaves. The steeping leaves truly reminded me of lightly buttered lima beans. The wet leaves still exhibited aromatics of seaweed (to a lesser extent), cooling to a dry green bean aroma. The cup was a little darker, and had a slightly more fruity nose. Flavors were similar, with a little more depth on my palate. This depth seemed to sharpen the fruity melon flavor a little, along with a delicate vegetal quality, while the tea still retained its sweet and smooth character.
Of the five pre-chingming teas I sampled, Snow Dragon is one I would seriously consider repurchasing. From the beautiful leaf to the aromas, to the gentle and very satisfying, smooth, sweet, fruity cup-this is a special tea! Snow Dragon is….in a word…SUBLIME! :))
Cupped & Reviewed: Thursday, May 24, 2012.
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Just got the newest Upton print catalog and NOW I know what Chingming is!(Chinese Memorial Day, more or less.)
What’s a pre-chingming?
Missy: This will help:
