Cocoa Amore

It’s been awhile since I had this too. I think I’ll go with it tonight as well. Yum!

I hope you enjoyed your cup! It’s such a delightful tea.

If you had asked me about sweetener in tea three years ago I would have adamantly held the position that a tea “simply isn’t a good quality tea if it requires additions to taste enjoyable” – but I’ve since realized that ideology is something I picked up from a crowd of tea drinkers who were somewhat more snobbish than I would like to be personally and would like the community to be as a whole. Sometimes I still have to combat that mindset; it’s like unlearning a negative behaviour…

Sweetener definitely does make your tea different and I do believe that can be both a positive OR a negative. It really, truly does depend on both your own individual taste preferences (and I don’t believe anyone has “superior” preferences; taste is qualitative) as well as an understanding of how different additives (sugar, milk, lemonade, etc.) both pair with and affect flavour. No wrong choices; just different ones. I definitely have my own arsenal of things I add to my tea when the mood strikes.

Don’t let anyone shame you for enjoying the added sweetness!

Piggybacking off of what Roswell posted, but yeah, there is really nothing wrong with adding sweeteners to tea. I don’t have a problem with it. For some time there, my beverage of choice before work was either CTC Assam or Ceylon OP with additions of 2% milk and honey. I’ll even take the blasphemy one step further: I enjoy Southern sweet tea. I can’t have it very often, but it was a huge part of my upbringing and I lived off of it in college when I couldn’t afford better quality tea. I also sometimes like to add mango and apricot nectar to unsweetened iced tea on hot days.

Also, for a long time, I had trouble appreciating pu’erh and any sort of aged tea. When I tried to get into them and learn more about them, I ran into a lot of very snooty, rigidly dogmatic people who put me off of them in a big way. There are some fantastic, knowledgeable, and kind pu’erh fanatics out there (mrmopar and Liquid Proust chief among them), but there is also a number of very vocal people in that segment of the tea community who look down on anyone who gravitates to other types of tea and consider themselves the gatekeepers of the true tea community. I eventually just decided to ignore them. Pu’erh and aged teas really aren’t my things. I can appreciate them in small doses, but honestly, I would rather have anything else most of the time, and there is nothing wrong with that. Don’t ever let anyone make you think their personal preferences and experiences are superior to yours. Do your own thing and enjoy it. You’re in it for your own enjoyment, enlightenment, and/or whatever else.

I added sweetener to my tea for quite some time when I first started drinking tea… and suddenly one day I just… didn’t. I don’t even know what changed! I didn’t even “wean” myself from it by progressively adding less, or make a conscious decision that I wanted to drink less sweetener… my palate just changed suddenly. I was used to always needing a little extra sweetness in my tea, and then… just… didn’t. It was odd! But then I’ve heard that our tastebuds and palates can naturally change over time.

When I make tea lattes, though, I still prefer “pre-sweetened” milk in the form of vanilla almond milk… yum!

One thing that weighs on me heavily is my IRL BFF who claims to be a tea snob because she refuses to drink any tea that isn’t palatable without sweetener. She keeps ragging on me for adding sweetener, and keeps telling me “If it was good tea, you wouldn’t need sweetener”. However, HER idea of “Good Tea” is hyper-tart grocery store hibi and the occasional raspberry royal from Bigalow. I actually once offered to buy her some loose leaf for Christmas and, long story short, after two months worth of arguments, we didn’t exchange presents this past Christmas. sigh I really need better IRL Friends.

And if it sounds like I’m shaming her for liking grocery store tea, it’s not because she LIKES it, it’s because she isn’t willing to accept or try anything else. In her mind, tea ENDS with Bigelow and Stash.

Shanie, it’s no joke, but I recently made the statement, “I really need better IRL friends” in conversation. I had the same issue you did. A lot of my IRL friends just got to this weird point where we couldn’t interact without a disagreement or an argument. I’m a pretty liberal, easygoing, live-and-let live kind of guy, but a bunch of my friends and colleagues got way into radical activist culture, and suddenly, every interaction was problematic. Everything turned into a political discussion and then an argument. They also seemed to stop having interests or lives outside of their individual causes of the day. I couldn’t talk to them about anything going on in my life and couldn’t expect any form of understanding or support from them. I also got annoyed with the constant condescension. These people would try to explain the concepts behind sociopolitical movements and trends to me, and I’m a former integrated social studies teacher who taught government, economics, US history, sociology, and psychology who made the jump into the community health field! I was pretty positive I knew more about that stuff than they did. Eventually, I just got sick of their hysterics and constantly being disrespected, realized that I had outgrown these relationships, and moved on with my life. Making real life friends is harder as you get older, but it’s far from impossible. Moving on from those people allowed me to reconnect with some older friends and acquaintances with similar interests and gave me tons of time to work on myself. If I were you, I would take a step back from this relationship to carefully evaluate its course, and if you feel that it’s worth saving and should be saved, great. Go for it. If there just isn’t some level of mutual respect, tolerance, and acceptance there, it’s okay to move on from it. Sometimes people change and have to go a different way. Don’t feel bad about it if that ends up being the case.

Interesting conversation. Love it. FWIW, the only reason I don’t add sweetener is that I like sour stuff. :P I’ve always been anti-social IRL so I can’t give you good advice like eastkyteaguy. I’ve never had patience IRL for anyone’s BS. My best friend was my dad growing up and now that he’s gone, they are my furkids :D. Hope things improve for you Shanie. (hugs)

The best tea is made the way you like to enjoy it. It is a personal experience for you in your cup. Every one has different taste buds. Drink it the way you like it.

I’d get lots of healthy trail mixes. I love trail mixes. :D

May tea be the salvation!

Trail mixes have tons of calories, unfortunately and I’m currently on a 1200 calorie diet to lose weight from years of being on OTHER medications that caused massive weight gain. I’m finally of “normal” weight although not at goal yet and I’d really not like to go backwards.

Oh sorry. :( I just figured trail mixes were a much healthier option than all the other crap I eat. haha. I guess I didn’t know they had more calories. If they are nuts without sugar then it should be healthy calories? By the way, I’m drinking one of the teas you sent me a while ago today (Bluebird’s Terry’s). So thanks for those again.

While nuts are healthy calories, they are also LOTS of calories for very small serving sizes. Mostly I’m drinking my calories in smoothies.

I just figured nuts would be FILLING though, like protein. Oh well, smoothies are delicious too. :D

Yeah, it’s great how doctors don’t seem to mention these potential side effects and often leave it up to the patient to connect the dots. After years of various drug experiments brought on by doctors’ prescription pads and overall appalling side effects during and after, I do intensive research through patient review sites to see how others have fared.

Break a leg! Hope it’s all a good fit for you.

My doctor and I made a decision to take me off of it (Seroquel, if anyone cares) so I’m back to my regular meds, which I have adapted to already.

Another one of my doctors suggested that that would be worth a try, in the exact therapeutic dosage i.e. under the usual, for sleep issues. I haven’t tried it tough and likely will not.

Good to hear that your choice is working for you. YAY!

It’s a tricky thing commenting on such things. I was going to delete my earlier comment, but ultimately thought my experience might be useful. Thank you for understanding my intended meaning.

If it matters, what HAS been working for me (for the most part, though I’m adapting which is why we’re searching for other things) has been Trazodone at a 100-200mg dose. I haven’t experienced many side effects with it so it seems fairly safe.

Thank you for that. For me, the problem is external and Trazodone doesn’t seem to work well for people whose sleep is disturbed. The search continues.

I’ve found magnesium and meditation to be a helpful addition to whatever else I am doing.

Will you be my valentine?

<-U HAVE GOOD TASTE-3

That’s a conversation heart if you can’t tell.

I, too, hope Rivendell comes back. I passed it by because at the time because it was out of my league.

Oh my gosh, Rivendell is the BESSSTT.

Thank you, derk, I appreciate. You are my tea Valentine. Are there any other takers?

I am so bummed that this tea isn’t available. Or the Golden Orchid, which was my fave. Maybe Brendan will bring the Vanilla Dreams collection back again someday.

I got a very defined cherry note in a 1.5 year-old bag of WP’s Cheshire Black which has a base tea from Ailaoshan. I’m guessing some of that leaf in is Cocoa Amore.

Tea goals!

I always wanted to try this one too.

Happy Late Birthday! __

Happy birthday!

Happy belated birthday! Yay for celebratory teas!

Happy birthday!!!

Thank you!

Happy Birthday!

Happy birthday!

Thank you!

happy birthday lady! sorry i missed it….apparently steepster unfollowed you? :(

Thank you, Sil. No, I wasn’t in followed but rather my original acct is on my laptop, as is FB, and I still am without WiFi at home. This acct is what I can access on my mini tablet out in the world. Hence, my very short posts and being mostly incommunicado. Typing with this stick sucks. (I need to get your little pouch of tea to you. I’ll send a couple of dates/times soon. Are you away or at work the next couple of weeks?)

I head in to work about 2 days a week – mondays are almost always a given. I’ll be in ottawa for a week though, but around over the next few weeks.

K, I’ll prrpose a couple of times on a couple of mondays

cant say that it’s the best tea I’ve ever tried though it can be included at least to my personal top 10 favorites

A great taste and top rating tea of Asia: http://bit.ly/2SJbRTa