129 Tasting Notes

95

Wow this is nice! I had been trying a handful of fruity teas and tisanes from Tealyra, with mixed results. This Ginger Ginseng Chamomile tisane blend made the best fruity infusion I’ve found. Anywhere. I followed the label directions for a western-style infusion of 1-1/2 tsp dry tisane (wonderful dry aroma of chamomile, orange and ginger) in 8oz boiling alpine spring water in a micropore stainless infusion basket for 5 min. Single steeping.

The resulting liquor had a strong golden-orange hue, was crystal clear, and delivered a mostly chamomile and orange aroma. The first sip gave a chamomile overature, with backup melodies of mixed spice. The melodies resolved as a softer chamomile drone with a fugue, starting with a prickly tingle of ginger on the top and sides of my tongue, followed by mint in the nose, sweet orange across the mouth, a gentle zing of slightly sour rosehips, and a whiff of mint. This was then followed by a returning ginger heat on the tongue as the other notes rose into the sinuses. Really, all the flavors and aromas were so well balanced that I’m sure the ginseng flavors were in there, but I wasn’t aware of it taking the lead. Even ten min after my last sip, there was a sweet and warming tail of flavor lingering to be enjoyed. Once reaching room temp, the flavors had flattened out and was mostly ginger and chamomile.

I recommend enjoying this tisane hot and/or warm. I’ll rate it as 95, it was soooo good! I’ll enjoy this on spring and summer evenings, when I need to avoid caffeine. Hope you get to enjoy it!

Flavors: Chamomile, Fruity, Ginger, Ginseng, Mint, Orange, Rosehips, Sweet

Preparation
Boiling 5 min, 0 sec 2 tsp 8 OZ / 236 ML

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88

The more I drink this shou pu-erh, the more I like it! I steeped up several cups of this every morning for the past week. ~5g in 8oz boiling water for about 45 sec. With 4 – 8 resteepings. Each time I was rewarded with dark, thick, creamy and smooth teas, and the chen pi (aged tangerine peel, present in big chunks, 1cm^2 or larger) was a consistent flavor the whole way thru to the final steep, without overpowering! Any wet pile notes are now totally gone, as I’ve kept the broken up cake in a pint mason jar fitted with a filter paper cover to allow air exchange, in my darkened tea cabinet. I’ve been enjoying the other flavors of tea, geosmin, leather, and fresh-sawn oakwood, along with the absence of astringency, lack of putrefaction, non-fishiness and a lovely mouthfeel. It is a potent tea, and one time I let the 5th or 6th infusion oversteep for 10 min, and the brew was so strong I couldn’t drink it! In retrospect, I should have just diluted it threefold, which may be a strategy in the future. Again, I’m upping my rating to an 88, because it is so reliable and yummy!

Flavors: Geosmin, Leather, Orange Zest, Sawdust, Sweet, Tangerine, Tea, Woody

Preparation
Boiling 0 min, 45 sec 5 g 8 OZ / 236 ML

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31

ICED. Brewed as directed, at double strength, then added an a tablespoon of white sugar, an equal volume of cold spring water, and chilled in a sealed jar 24hr. Result: Cloudy pale yellow liquor with very floral fragrance, but tastes like apple juice with a hint of berry. Flat apple juice, without any bite or zing. Really boring and not recommended—just drink real apple juice! Rating this style a 20, as it may have utility as an alcohol mixer, but choose something high-proof!

COLD BREW. Put 3 tsp dry tisane in a pint jar and added a cup of water. Sealed and let sit on counter overnight, then 12 hr in refrig. Added a cup of cold spring water (no sweetener) and tasted. Result: Cloudy golden liquor. Cidery aroma and the most foul tasting somewhat sour and slightly bitter infusion I’ve ever had. Yuck! Don’t do this! Had an appley aftertaste, but not worth the trouble or nastyness to get there. Rating this style a 5, for a average rating of 31 for the hot, iced and cold brew concoctions together.

Flavors: Apple, Bittersweet, Raspberry, Sour

Preparation
Iced 8 min or more 3 tsp 16 OZ / 473 ML

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95

There are interesting changes in this year’s lot (Best before 07-2026), compared to previous lots in the past 4 years. The dry leaf in this pouch gave me a wonderful nose-ful of malt and a fleeting whiff of black walnut! I steeped 4g leaf in 8 oz boiling alpine spring water using a stainless micropore infusion basket for 30s, 45s, and 120s, successively without pause.

The first cup was rich with sweet, nonastringent malt and as it cooled, a hint of wintergreen on the sides of my tongue. There was also a stewed stonefruit flavor, a touch of raisin, and every bit of the “assamica” taste that I like and expected. The aroma was lovely, but not as exciting as that of the dry leaf. The second steep was a bit more subdued in flavor and aroma. the wintergreen note was gone, but the stewiness intensified, as a woody flavor arose. The third infusion was disappointing as the leaf had given out and there were only hints of assamic malt, and even the stewiness was diminished. Next time I’ll increase the leaf to 5g, reduce the water temp a bit, and decrease the second steep to 30s. Overall, this a good Ruby Eighteen, even if billed as an oolong. It seems more of a black to me, though there was never any bitterness even in the longer third infusion. I’m going to reduce my rating to 95 for this lot. Still highly recommended!

Flavors: Black Walnut, Malt, Raisins, Stewed Fruits, Wintergreen

Preparation
Boiling 0 min, 45 sec 4 g 8 OZ / 236 ML

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31

Upon opening the pouch of “Organic Pomegranate Raspberry” tea, I immediately noticed two things: an incredibly pungent aroma and major stratification of the ingredients. So I tumbled the pouch around a bit to re-blend the contents to uniformity. The dry aroma was so very artificial, and it took me a while to identify it as the exact smell of Wrigley’s Juicyfruit Chewing Gum! Now I happen to like the smell & taste of Juicyfruit Gum, regardless of the artificiality of it, so I was optimistic. Note this contains no Camellia sinensis, so it is not actually tea, but rather is a tisane. Also, it contains papaya with added sugar.

I brewed it up as directed, western style: 1-2 tsp tisane with 8 oz boiled spring water, in a stainless micropore infusion basket for 5 min. The resulting liquor was golden colored and the juicyfruit fragrance had been driven off and replaced by a rather offputting vegetal scent, likely due to the papaya and drumstick tree leaves (Moringa oleifera). As it cooled, the fragrance shifted toward pleasant raspberries and apple, which remained through the rest of my sipping and lingered in the empty cup. While hot, the taste was reminiscent of apple dumpling (without cinnamon), and though inoffensive was not my favorite. As it cooled, the berry flavors reasserted themselves and I enjoyed the improvement! I never really noticed anything like pomegranate flavor, nor pomegranate flowers. I will prepare iced tea with my next infusion and report back on it. Overall, I would give this a Rating of 68, and recommend it to those who like strong fruity flavors. I’m not sure why the ingredient lists both raspberries and raspberry! Maybe for the same reason the description uses the word “perfect” twice in the same sentence?!

One other issue I note: The tea is labeled (but not on the website) as “organic”. I do not believe it, because of the papaya content. Virtually no papaya in commercial global production can be correctly labeled as USDA Organic. Same under EU regulations. (Though the package omits the term “USDA”.) Personally I don’t give a rats tail about organic foods, but I do care about misleading labeling. So take that label cum grano salis.

Flavors: Apple, Floral, Fruity, Juicy, Papaya, Raspberry, Sweet

Preparation
Boiling 5 min, 0 sec 2 tsp 8 OZ / 236 ML

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100

Just received a new, fresh batch of this tea (Best before 08-2026) and this is a great “vintage” batch! Intoxicatingly rich aroma on the dry leaf, potent, honey-sweet flavors of malt, raisin, stonefruit and that unique “assamic” character, but smooth and non-astringent.

I quickly optimized my western-style brewing to use 4 grams of the lovely huge leaves in 8 oz boiling alpine spring water in a stainless microscreen infusion basket for 30 sec, 45 sec, and 3 min. in immediate succession. The first steep had rich honey and floral aroma, the second with a note of cinnamon and the third with a woodier sensation, but all having variations on the base assamic maltiness that I love. Note that TTES Cultivar #8 is an “assamica varietal from Jaipur (India, Assam)” that has been grown and processed in the Sun Moon Lake region of Taiwan, regardless of Tealyra’s comments about it being a hybrid. It is an unflavored, unsweetened straight black tea.

All three infusions merit my highest rating of 100. I have already placed a followup order for more before this lot sells out. I enjoy this even more than the “different eighteen” from Song Tea & Ceramics which I recently reviewed, even with no weight given to the pricing.

Flavors: Cinnamon, Floral, Honey, Malt, Raisins

Preparation
Boiling 0 min, 45 sec 4 g 8 OZ / 236 ML
Leafhopper

Wow! Saying it’s better than the Different Eighteen is high praise indeed. Does it gongfu well? Have you tried Tealyra’s greener oolongs?

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75

I will admit to having been swayed by the Tealyra description and reviews posted on their site. And I had not seen eelong’s tea note here on Steepster — a note that might have dissuaded me from purchasing Rosy Earl Grey. However, I have been captivated by roses and rose scents since childhood, and was eager to try this blend. And I liked it! Mostly. I do also enjoy jasmine scents (and have before remarked on my memories of summertime play amongst the Star Jasmine bushes as a kid in California).

I do wish tea purveyors would be more strictly precise in their claims and ingredients. When a claim of “bergamot essential oil, jasmine, lavender” is made, I expect to find those precise ingredients listed, and not obscured behind the anonymity of “natural flavors” or a vague compound ingredient like “jasmine green tea”. The dry leaf was nicely fragrant of rose petals (not rosehips), and I was optimistic.

I steeped (a single cup) western style, according to direction: 1 tsp leaf in 8 oz (boiling alpine spring) water, for 3-1/2 min, in a stainless microscreen infusion basket. The jasmine aroma was more pronounced in the tea vapors, though I also detected scents of rose and bergamot. While sipping, I found it easy to identify each of the named ingredient flavors, largely in my sinuses, but with bergamot on the sides of my tongue, and with the lavender arriving late to the center back of my tongue in the finish of each sip. I only saw the green tea leaves and smelled their jasmine, but couldn’t really parse out a distinct taste of green tea. Perhaps the green tea accounted for the slight bitterness and bite with a little astringency that I noted (and which Tealyra described, too). The clear amber color undoubtedly came from the black tea content, though it was only barely detected as a flavor. Finally, in the last few sips of the cooler tea, I got a powdery floral hit on the roof of my mouth. Overall, this was a satisfying springtime bouquet that I would recommend and continue to enjoy from time to time, giving it a rating of 75 today, mostly docking points for the use of generic flavorings rather than actual biological components. I prefer a cup of plant origin, rather than the cheating of chemistry, which steals the magic.

I did not detect any notes of bubblegum, as reported by eelong. Thankfully.

Flavors: Astringent, Bergamot, Bitter, Floral, Jasmine, Lavender, Powdery, Rose, Tea

Preparation
Boiling 3 min, 15 sec 1 tsp 8 OZ / 236 ML

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95

Seduced by the glowing reviews of derk, beerandbeancurd, and Leafhopper, I ordered A Different Eighteen (and a couple other teas) from Song. I was already prejudiced in favor of this tea by my prior experience ten years ago with a gifted sample of the Ruby 18 tea from Nantou county that was brought back from Taiwan by a colleague. We were told only “this is the best tea in the World.” It was that tea which initiated my 21st century return to tea-drinking (after years of coffee), and which ultimately led to my joining the Steepster community.

So I happily indulged in a purchase, despite a tea cabinet bulging with recent adventures. My 60g packet is from the June 2024 lot, so can be expected to vary from prior reports. And I certainly have been enjoying it! I steeped 5g leaf in 8oz 205°F alpine spring water (western style in a steel strainer basket) for 60s, successively. And although it’s into dinnertime, I’m unwilling to pollute my taste buds with a meal, lest the tea be less enjoyable. I do not detect any blackcurrent or wintergreen notes at all, but there is plenty of malt, brown sugar, pruny stonefruit, and a nose of malt and mild woodiness. My fifth infusion got away from me and ran just over 4 minutes, producing a beautiful mahogany brew with crystal clarity and not a hint of bitterness or astringency. The flavors are beginning to lighten up, so I’ll stop here. Note that I used almost twice the recommended amount of water in each infusion, but this was not weak tea! I like it as much as the Ruby 18 based “Brandy Oolong” from Tealyra, though this is distinctly a Different Eighteen! So it gets a 95 rating from me. YMMV.

edit 2/28/25: I ran a formal gongfu series across 21 serial 100 ml infusions of 5g leaf in a small porcelain teapot, ranging from 5s to 60s in 205°F water, using a streamlined process and dispensing with the emotional/decorative aspects. The final 18 of those infusions are pictured, starting at top right and going horizontally, to finish at the teapot. I do not doubt that a few more infusions could have been made. These all gave similar flavor profiles and I have nothing further to add from the experience, besides a bit of a caffeine buzz, but it was a worthwhile endeavor!

Flavors: Brown Sugar, Malt, Prune, Smooth, Sweet, Woody

Preparation
205 °F / 96 °C 1 min, 0 sec 5 g 8 OZ / 236 ML
Leafhopper

Ooh, 60 g! I’m jealous!

If you have the tools and time, I’d highly recommend steeping this tea gongfu at least once.

ashmanra

Sounds delightful!

TeaEarleGreyHot

@Leafhopper: Good idea, so… Done! Review above has been amended. I’d done a couple gongfu-style sessions previously, too, though not quite so formally.

Leafhopper

Glad you found it worthwhile! It’s too bad you didn’t get any of the chocolate cherry notes I got in my sample of this tea from Derk, possibly because the harvest is different. Maybe it needs to be aged in a plastic baggy for years …

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55

This lot of Jing Gu White Pekoe Silver Needled White Tea is dated “Spring 2022” and I received it June 1st of that year. I wasn’t impressed with it then, and today — almost 3 yr later — I am still unimpressed. Lots from several other years are listed here separately, and the notes recorded by others seem to be hit and miss. I found the dry leaf to smell of alfalfa hay. My first session used 2.5g leaf in 8 oz boiling spring water, oversteeped for 5 minutes. That was half my usual amount of leaf for western brewing, but the leaf was very bulky (long, hairy needles, as pictured) and I was hesitant. The pale tea was watery, with faint notes of malt, grass and astringency. Weakly sweet despite a nice thick mouthfeel. Resteeping was not too different. A second session was more to my usual process, with 5g leaf and a first 8 oz steeping of 30s, to result in a light blond infusion from the light-hued, olive-green leaves. The flavors were much the same, but less astringent, with weak stonefruit apparent. A resteeping of several minutes produced a golden broth with a grassy aroma, but a more substantial flavor, with malt, hay, and notes of chestnut, akin to a long jing (dragonwell) type tea. This infusion was the best of the bunch, with a nice aftertaste, but just not worth the fuss and price. I’d rather sip on true dragonwell. I’ll only rate this as a 55-point experience, and suggest you sip something else. [For example, EITHER the http://steepster.com/teas/yunnan-sourcing/103292-jinggu-sun-dried-silver-needles-white-pu-erh-tea-cake-spring-2022 , OR the http://steepster.com/teas/yunnan-sourcing/93180-2019-jinggu-yang-ta-camellia-taliensis-white-tea-cake , both of which looks to be made of identical-appearing C. taliensis material, but which were far better tasting, IMO.]

Flavors: Alfalfa, Chestnut, Hay, Malt

Preparation
Boiling 4 min, 15 sec 5 g 8 OZ / 236 ML

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83

I bought a cake of this about 3 years ago, and it has improved since then! I love the mild briskness, and the maltiness on the tongue. Slightly floral scent, too. The cake was easy to pry apart, though the leaves were fragile and prone to shattering. Still for sale at YS, though at $30/250g it’s perhaps not the value previously reported — though it has improved, so perhaps it is actually still a value? It is surely potent. I brewed (western) 5g in 8 oz boiling spring water for a mere 15 sec each for three infusions, and 30 sec for the 4th, and the liquor has deepened from golden amber at start to golden brown on the 4th, with no drop in flavor or aroma yet. If anything, the aroma of honey has intensified, and the malty flavor is persisting. This is surprisingly good tea! I’ll rate it at 83 and have hopes that more aging will provide continued pleasure! Nice aftertaste, too!

Flavors: Brisk, Floral, Honey, Malt, Smooth

Preparation
Boiling 0 min, 15 sec 5 g 8 OZ / 236 ML

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Pan-American: Left-coast reared (on Bigelow’s Constant Comment and Twinings’ Earl Grey) and right-coast educated, I’ve used this moniker since the 90’s, reflecting two of my lifelong loves—tea and ‘Trek. Now a midwestern science guy (right down to the Hawaiian shirts), I’m finally broadening the scope of my sippage and getting into all sorts of Assamicas, from mainstream Assam CTCs to Taiwan blacks & TRES varietals, to varied Pu’erhs. With some other stuff tossed in for fun. Love reading other folks’ tasting notes (thank you), I’ve lurked here from time to time and am now adding a few notes of my own to better appreciate the experience. You can keep the rooibos LoL! Note that my sense of taste varies from the typical, for example I find stevia to be unsweet and bitter. My revulsion to rooibos may be similarly genetic.
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